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09-28-2012, 10:31 AM
Harry Rex Vonner Wrote:No true Christian can support the radical funding and availability of abortions. No true Christian can support same sex marriages. If they accept the Holy Bible, which is a prerequisite for being a Christian, the admonitions are quite clear. There is no compromise.
Now, as for the Mormon issue, keep in mind that Kardashian's upbringing and heredity are certainly not Christian. His influences were all as a Muslim. We can argue all we want about whether he is a closet Muslim or not. His favored treatment of Muslim countries and continual defense of their religion indicates he is "close" to them. His alleged Christian ties are almost nonexistent. No one can legitimately argue that. In fact, he has attacked the most basic and holy tenet of the Catholic faith in regard to the forced birth control edict.
You may call Kardashian a Christian. I wouldn't do so. The evidence seems quite clear that this election pairs a Mormon against a Muslim (Muslim supporter and sympathizer if you prefer). I'll take the Mormon who, at least for the most part, represents traditional and long held Judeo-Christian beliefs. Kardashian certainly fails that test. But, then, he fails most all tests other than that of an incompetent radical. Oh. Of course, I should add that his constituency finds him "cool". He should be grateful he isn't running against Justin Bieber.
First off, a true christian can support same sex marriage. I do. But first you need to come to grips with what government is and does. Many hardline christians can't accept that government is not an extension of the church. There are two kinds of marriage... a religious one, and a civil/government one. While I strongly believe that the Christian marriage is to be only between man and a woman, I also believe that the government has a duty to protect homosexuals and allow them the right as heterosexuals.
Second, accepting the holy bible is not a prerequisite to Christianity. Scholars of the bible know that for 4 centuries, the bible as we know it didn't exist. Many people today who become christian have never read the bible.
Third, I'd vote for a satanic cult leader who's policies I agree with, over a Christian who didn't represent my political values.
As a hardline Catholic, I lose no sleep at night or time during the day in thought about what faith my government officials might hold. I care more about this country than that.
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Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by Harry Rex Vonner - 09-27-2012, 04:49 PM
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Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by Harry Rex Vonner - 09-28-2012, 10:08 AM
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Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by Harry Rex Vonner - 09-28-2012, 03:40 PM
Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by ronald reagan - 09-28-2012, 06:08 PM
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Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by ronald reagan - 09-28-2012, 11:15 PM
Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by Bob Seger - 09-28-2012, 11:25 PM
Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by Harry Rex Vonner - 09-28-2012, 11:33 PM
Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by Bob Seger - 09-29-2012, 12:19 AM
Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by Harry Rex Vonner - 09-29-2012, 09:57 AM
Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by Bob Seger - 09-29-2012, 10:08 AM
Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by WideRight05 - 09-29-2012, 10:45 AM
Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by Harry Rex Vonner - 09-29-2012, 02:55 PM
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Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by Harry Rex Vonner - 09-29-2012, 09:01 PM
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Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by ronald reagan - 09-30-2012, 12:09 AM
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Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by Bob Seger - 09-30-2012, 05:51 AM
Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by SKINNYPIG - 09-30-2012, 09:58 AM
Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by Harry Rex Vonner - 09-30-2012, 11:11 AM
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Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by Harry Rex Vonner - 09-30-2012, 01:23 PM
Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by SKINNYPIG - 09-30-2012, 02:58 PM
Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by Bob Seger - 09-30-2012, 04:14 PM
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Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by ronald reagan - 09-30-2012, 05:32 PM
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Howard Stern Interviews and Exposes Obama Supporters - by TheRealThing - 09-30-2012, 05:51 PM
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