[TheRealThing]

Exactly. We have different beliefs. See how simple that is to acknowledge? Should I be forced to believe as you, by the government? Should you be forced to believe as I do? Absolutely not. Its not governments role to get us into heaven. Its a business, not a place of worship.

Your opinion is of value to me. I was a protestant most of my life. I converted on Easter of 2010 after intense study. I did it while in Iraq actually, near where some place the Garden of Eden. It was an amazing thing. But the thing is, I believe differently than you in regards to religion. The Holy Father is the Vicar of Christ IMO, and is infallible. This was confirmed in 1870 at the Vatican 1 council.

Anyways. I'm glad we can agree to disagree.

Let me come at this from different angle. You're trying to inject two things into the discussion that nobody is talking about (except you) First, is doctrine; I certainly wouldn't debate with you on here about the short falls of the Catholic view. So, that's a smoke screen to hide behind with regard to the scripture passage from the book of Romans I posted in which, God deals specifically with the sin of homosexuality, the ramifications of that lifestyle and the ultimate penalty He will exact on those who live in that way. Second, is the argument you keep making in which you voice your concerns that government will force you to believe, or feel, a certain way. When the gay community took America's poplulace to court to overturn God's law at man's hand, that's when folks began to be forced how to believe. People living in a number of social stigmas in today's world find themselves at odds with what is considered right. Therefore, in an attempt to force folks to honor them, they have gone to court and sued for relief. Time and time again, they have tried to breach the 'legal fence' in state after state until at some point they began to find certain activist judges to rule in their favor. What God has said is wrong, man now says is right. You operate on logic, you really buying that one?

And I answered you already when it comes to defying written law. I fight it the best I can at the ballot box, and I speak out against wrong when I can. You want to keep putting democrats in positions of leadership knowing many of them are self defined opponents of the tradition views which have defined America for over 250 years? You just told us that the Pope is infallable, yet you say you are comfortable defying him by supporting gay marriage. Where I come from that's talking out of both sides of your mouth.