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10-12-2012, 10:54 PM
270towin.com is now showing the electoral raise in a virtual tie. 201-191. a less than 5% lead for NObama...... This is near the margin of error of many polls (3-5%). But the interesting thing is that the site gives all the winning combinations possible for each candidate with remaning states, and lists 32 combinations that would lead to a 269-269 tie. (171 winning combinations for Obama, 161 for Romney) A tie results in a vote in the House of Representatives (being the true representation of the people as designed by the founders). This would give Romney the win, without a doubt. What concerns me though, is this....
Rogue Electoral votes.
In previous and recent elections we have seen electors vote erroneously as well as with intention, for someone other than the winner of their state. In 2004, a vote was mistakenly given to John Edwards for president. Instead of John Kerry. That would be catastrophic in a tie. In 2000, 1 elector obstained (i think out of protest because of the florida results).
This leads me to the question...... This is not a debate about the need for or abolishment of the electoral college itself, but about the electors. Should electors be bound by law and criminal statues, to vote for the candidate that won their state or the manner prescribed by state? a 269-269 tie is very possible. I believe that romney winning Florida, NC, Ohio, Iowa, and Nevada will give him 269. Thats very possible. He's up in 3 of the 5 I believe and virtually tied in two.
Whats also interesting to me is that Biden being senate president, oversee the ballot certification and I suppose counts the votes. if he loses, it'll be amazing to watch him, like gore... declare the winner. Gore handled it with absolute class, and considering the historic fight preceeding it, it was nice to see his professionalism. He had to take action while proceeding, to calm protests.
Rogue Electoral votes.
In previous and recent elections we have seen electors vote erroneously as well as with intention, for someone other than the winner of their state. In 2004, a vote was mistakenly given to John Edwards for president. Instead of John Kerry. That would be catastrophic in a tie. In 2000, 1 elector obstained (i think out of protest because of the florida results).
This leads me to the question...... This is not a debate about the need for or abolishment of the electoral college itself, but about the electors. Should electors be bound by law and criminal statues, to vote for the candidate that won their state or the manner prescribed by state? a 269-269 tie is very possible. I believe that romney winning Florida, NC, Ohio, Iowa, and Nevada will give him 269. Thats very possible. He's up in 3 of the 5 I believe and virtually tied in two.
Whats also interesting to me is that Biden being senate president, oversee the ballot certification and I suppose counts the votes. if he loses, it'll be amazing to watch him, like gore... declare the winner. Gore handled it with absolute class, and considering the historic fight preceeding it, it was nice to see his professionalism. He had to take action while proceeding, to calm protests.
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In the event of a tie... - by ronald reagan - 10-12-2012, 10:54 PM
In the event of a tie... - by nky - 10-13-2012, 06:19 PM
In the event of a tie... - by nky - 10-13-2012, 06:20 PM
In the event of a tie... - by ronald reagan - 10-13-2012, 10:52 PM
In the event of a tie... - by LWC - 10-13-2012, 11:07 PM
In the event of a tie... - by ronald reagan - 10-13-2012, 11:10 PM
In the event of a tie... - by LWC - 10-13-2012, 11:11 PM
In the event of a tie... - by ronald reagan - 10-13-2012, 11:24 PM
In the event of a tie... - by RunItUpTheGut - 10-14-2012, 03:16 AM
In the event of a tie... - by ronald reagan - 10-14-2012, 10:24 AM
In the event of a tie... - by TheRealThing - 10-14-2012, 10:20 PM
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