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2012 State Finals Recap
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Crossbones Wrote:All of that really means nothing to me. All of the Mayfield faithful are pulling for him on this board to win Mr. Football. As fans of their team that is fine and dandy. My point was that there are a lot of great players in the state. JJ, will not win Mr. Football no matter how much they get on here an poll for him. He is a great football player, no doubt. But there are several better.

I think you are probably correct. Although Jackson had a very, very impressive state game. Kid can flat out play.

However, I think those voting for Mr. Football (AP writers, correct?) realize that if Jackson played for a team like, say Trinity, he'd be a one way starter and probably would be an inside or outside LBer. Actually he reminded me a lot of one of Trinity's inside Lbers (Bertram, who had an outstanding game, as did Bobby Bryant and Jabari Jordan. As good as Trinity's D was this year, it would have been illegal to have Jackson playing alongside of Bertram). No disrespect at all towards Jackson because the kid is a player, but at other programs he is more of a role player. Heck I wonder if you took Bertram off of Trinity's team and put him on Mayfield's team, using him the same way Mayfield used Jackson, whether it would be Bertram's name being floated as a possible Mr. Football. I obviously never saw Bertram carry the ball, but the way he moved on the field, he looked liked he'd have been one heck of a RB too in a Mayfield type offense. No doubt the kid can play LBer. Bertram was the best LBer I saw play in the state games.

If Mr. Football goes to the most important player to a very good team, then Jackson wins it. If it goes to the best football player period, then probably not in my opinion. Right, wrong or otherwise, Jackson playing for a 1A team probably does hurt him. When you look at Mayfield's schedule and see who Mayfield played against, the one game that really sticks out, competition wise, is Warren Central. In that game (a 42-28 Mayfield loss) Jackson had a okay game rushing (83 yards) but...... If Jackson had racked up 150 plus yards, even in a losing effort, perhaps the voters could have felt comfortable that Jackson's gaudy stats weren't just due to the fact that most of his games were against lower level competition. But he didn't. Again, right, wrong or otherwise, I think the voters are going to feel that if he had played against tougher competition at a bigger school, his accomplishments might not have been so gaudy (and yes I fully realize that if Jackson had played for a Trinity type team he would have been surrounded by better players making it easier for him to do extremely well against tougher competition). I just think the voters will look at Quick, his accomplishments, his D-1 offers, the fact that Trinity struggled somewhat without him and demolished PRP when he came back and conclude that he was the difference maker unless an anti-Trinity/anti Jefferson County bias kicks in.
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2012 State Finals Recap - by toussaints - 12-02-2012, 12:29 AM
2012 State Finals Recap - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-02-2012, 12:39 AM
2012 State Finals Recap - by Wise one - 12-02-2012, 12:39 AM
2012 State Finals Recap - by toussaints - 12-02-2012, 12:42 AM
2012 State Finals Recap - by Wise one - 12-02-2012, 12:46 AM
2012 State Finals Recap - by Belfry0304 - 12-02-2012, 01:06 AM
2012 State Finals Recap - by toussaints - 12-02-2012, 01:18 AM
2012 State Finals Recap - by HHellBird - 12-02-2012, 03:49 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by Wise one - 12-02-2012, 07:28 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by Noble - 12-02-2012, 10:17 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by ontopofthewest - 12-03-2012, 12:38 AM
2012 State Finals Recap - by mysonis55 - 12-03-2012, 01:56 AM
2012 State Finals Recap - by MayfieldCardinal - 12-03-2012, 09:01 AM
2012 State Finals Recap - by MayfieldCardinal - 12-03-2012, 09:04 AM
2012 State Finals Recap - by charlie22 - 12-03-2012, 11:02 AM
2012 State Finals Recap - by barnabus_c2001 - 12-03-2012, 01:31 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by MayfieldCardinal - 12-03-2012, 02:52 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by Tica - 12-03-2012, 04:25 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by mysonis55 - 12-03-2012, 04:38 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by Crossbones - 12-03-2012, 05:00 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by Wise one - 12-03-2012, 05:11 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by Crossbones - 12-03-2012, 05:18 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by charlie22 - 12-03-2012, 07:21 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by Crossbones - 12-03-2012, 07:26 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by MayfieldCardinal - 12-03-2012, 07:53 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by mysonis55 - 12-03-2012, 08:13 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by rednblackattack - 12-03-2012, 08:30 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by charlie22 - 12-03-2012, 09:28 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by charlie22 - 12-03-2012, 09:33 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by Crossbones - 12-03-2012, 09:36 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by toussaints - 12-03-2012, 10:48 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by mysonis55 - 12-04-2012, 01:42 AM
2012 State Finals Recap - by nptb17 - 12-04-2012, 02:39 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by rednblackattack - 12-04-2012, 02:52 PM
2012 State Finals Recap - by toussaints - 12-04-2012, 02:55 PM

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