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12-26-2012, 08:26 PM
Beetle01 Wrote:TRT, I hope you are just trolling, and not actually believing any of the hog wash you post on here.
[B]Premiums have been skyrocketing long before ACA was ever brought up. I feel many of you are attacking the wrong aspects of the ACA, because that is what your corporate masters from Fox and other media aspects have told you is wrong.[B]
Premiums, Healtcare costs, and debt have all been rising uncontrollably for a solid decade now. It has reached a point that it can no longer be maintained. As the middle class continues to shrink as the manufacturing jobs that built the middle class continue to disappear to the far east, more and more people are becoming dependent on help from the govt and other sources. These people still get sick, their kids still get sick, they come to the ED. Hospitals, MD's, and so on make no money, and lose tons of money on these patients. That cost is shoved on to TRT, Bob Seger, Beetle, and the rest of us.
It's hard to stand against a complete overhaul of healthcare system in this country when over the last decade costs have skyrocketed so high, that hardly anyone can afford to get sick, hospitals are completely understaffed due to lay offs and financial problems. Premiums are skyrocketing that companies can no longer afford to offer their employees quality health coverage. All the while, Insurance companies are seeing records profits, and their profits have more than tripled in the last decade.
So you're saying that had the current system remained in place and/or some minor changes were made, that premiums would rise just as fast? I have audited healthcare entities. Every single one of them I have worked with, hospitals and other providers, find the ACA bill to be a nightmare to be accounted for. Several companies, small and large, are scrapping up to be able to cover the cost of this. Anybody with half a brain doesn't need a "corporate master" to be able to see that this bill is something that we simply cannot afford without a huge spike in taxes. Where did you get your info? See BS? MesSNBC? Certainly your bruised sensibilities to the thrashing you have taken in this thread could afford a better slam than that.
You said that "more and more people are dependent on getting help from the gov't and other sources." You are correct on that, but don't you think it's pathetic that we have about one out of every six Americans receiving government assistance? Someone I had on Facebook the other day complained about their lack of money, and made a big rant about how they were on food stamps and that everyone should quit putting down people on welfare, etc. I look at that disgusting piece of garbage with all the tattoos, drinking beer pictures, etc. that is being posted and that this person is raising a child as well. Welfare is good for people who really need it, but a good majority of situations are like the one I just mentioned. These are the people that are going to benefit majorly from this bill. And who gets screwed over? Of course, the middle class.
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Unaffordable care act - by the other guy - 12-20-2012, 08:19 AM
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Unaffordable care act - by Wildcatk23 - 12-20-2012, 10:44 AM
Unaffordable care act - by Harry Rex Vonner - 12-20-2012, 12:49 PM
Unaffordable care act - by TheRealThing - 12-20-2012, 01:29 PM
Unaffordable care act - by Stardust - 12-20-2012, 02:00 PM
Unaffordable care act - by nky - 12-20-2012, 03:20 PM
Unaffordable care act - by Wildcatk23 - 12-20-2012, 05:55 PM
Unaffordable care act - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-21-2012, 01:33 AM
Unaffordable care act - by TheRealThing - 12-21-2012, 01:11 PM
Unaffordable care act - by vundy33 - 12-22-2012, 09:47 PM
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Unaffordable care act - by vundy33 - 12-22-2012, 11:26 PM
Unaffordable care act - by SKINNYPIG - 12-23-2012, 10:13 AM
Unaffordable care act - by Wildcatk23 - 12-23-2012, 01:58 PM
Unaffordable care act - by the other guy - 12-23-2012, 09:42 PM
Unaffordable care act - by Wildcatk23 - 12-24-2012, 12:19 AM
Unaffordable care act - by Beetle01 - 12-24-2012, 07:16 AM
Unaffordable care act - by TheRealThing - 12-24-2012, 09:09 AM
Unaffordable care act - by vector - 12-24-2012, 11:26 AM
Unaffordable care act - by vector - 12-24-2012, 11:26 AM
Unaffordable care act - by TheRealThing - 12-24-2012, 12:22 PM
Unaffordable care act - by Beetle01 - 12-26-2012, 01:49 AM
Unaffordable care act - by vector - 12-26-2012, 08:20 AM
Unaffordable care act - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-26-2012, 09:10 AM
Unaffordable care act - by vector - 12-26-2012, 09:17 AM
Unaffordable care act - by judgementday - 12-26-2012, 10:41 AM
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Unaffordable care act - by WideRight05 - 12-26-2012, 03:12 PM
Unaffordable care act - by the other guy - 12-26-2012, 05:04 PM
Unaffordable care act - by TheRealThing - 12-26-2012, 05:27 PM
Unaffordable care act - by Bob Seger - 12-26-2012, 07:06 PM
Unaffordable care act - by Wildcatk23 - 12-26-2012, 07:45 PM
Unaffordable care act - by Beetle01 - 12-26-2012, 07:50 PM
Unaffordable care act - by WideRight05 - 12-26-2012, 08:26 PM
Unaffordable care act - by Bob Seger - 12-26-2012, 08:32 PM
Unaffordable care act - by Wildcatk23 - 12-26-2012, 08:55 PM
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Unaffordable care act - by Bob Seger - 12-26-2012, 09:21 PM
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Unaffordable care act - by TheRealThing - 12-26-2012, 10:15 PM
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Unaffordable care act - by vector - 12-27-2012, 05:31 PM
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