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03-16-2013, 03:29 PM
Genesis 11:5-9 (KJV)
5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
Man can do whatever he can imagine to do, in this day especially. There are no language barriers to slow us down anymore. Super computers now effortlessly interface among the various languages. And, as a result, problems are surfed over with substantially lesser resistance.
No matter how it is boiled down. In the end, man is faced with a choice between two possibilities. Either we were created or we are evolved. In other words and first, either one's god is a rock which, in the aeons of the unthinkably distant past, was floating out in the vast infinite void of nothing, being devoid of anything approaching energy in any form, including the tiniest spark of light or heat, suddenly exploded in an 'event' scientific theorists have dubbed the "Big Bang". I haven't read as extensively as Hoot has but, from what I have read, the laws of thermodynamics preclude a strict adherence to that possibility. To accept the Big Bang one must ignore the first law of thermodynamics and the law of entropy. LINK ---- http://science.howstuffworks.com/diction...heory7.htm
As Hoot has correctly pointed out, it takes a lot of faith to buy that one. At the bare minimum we must admit we can't apply known data to any model that would work for the Big Bang.
And or second, one has the creation model. In that likelihood, God being Omniscient and Omnipotent, speaks the universe into existence and forms the animals and man from the dust of the earth. It's faith in a rock, versus faith in God. And you can slice it anyway you want including the alien occupation theory, one is inevitably left with the same two possibilities from which to choose. To me, the following is the difference and the factor that make faith in a rock a bit harder for most. Faith in God is a gift, passed to us through the Holy Spirit.
Ephesians 2:7-9 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
I'm going to guess the rock heads can't compete with that, LOL.
I am a fan of science and find it fascinating to consider man's advances in that regard. However, I do have a problem, as I have mentioned in the past, with retro-engineering known science with a mix of theory to facilitate acceptance of a notion meant to justify rebellion against the authority of God. For example, the entire library which constitutes the so-called scientific body of work which, is the underpinning for the validity of the theory of evolution. Is the nearly endless litany of speculation and assumptions on top of assumptions, in a literal game of leap frog that spans the epochs and eons. The charts of flora and fauna detailing the life forms of what this so-called science says make up earth's history in geologic terms, has gotten far more complex since my college days. To explain away the problems as real science exposes them, evolutionists had to prop up the the precambrian era by prefacing it with something called a supereon. With 4.5 billion years to work with, evolutionist science now says life started about 4,000 million years ago. If they run into problems again they can just back things up another half a billion years or so. :biggrin:
For my part, they can make it as complex as they want. I know the whole notion that an exploding rock created the universe, complete with the emergence of all life is ridiculous on it's face. FWIW, the same kind of problems plague the viability of global warming (I intend to resist calling it climate change, the new name evironmentalists have come up with). Retro-engineered for the sake of accuracy. It's like pulling a bullet out of the bullseye and putting it in a gun, you can't miss, LOL.
5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
Man can do whatever he can imagine to do, in this day especially. There are no language barriers to slow us down anymore. Super computers now effortlessly interface among the various languages. And, as a result, problems are surfed over with substantially lesser resistance.
No matter how it is boiled down. In the end, man is faced with a choice between two possibilities. Either we were created or we are evolved. In other words and first, either one's god is a rock which, in the aeons of the unthinkably distant past, was floating out in the vast infinite void of nothing, being devoid of anything approaching energy in any form, including the tiniest spark of light or heat, suddenly exploded in an 'event' scientific theorists have dubbed the "Big Bang". I haven't read as extensively as Hoot has but, from what I have read, the laws of thermodynamics preclude a strict adherence to that possibility. To accept the Big Bang one must ignore the first law of thermodynamics and the law of entropy. LINK ---- http://science.howstuffworks.com/diction...heory7.htm
As Hoot has correctly pointed out, it takes a lot of faith to buy that one. At the bare minimum we must admit we can't apply known data to any model that would work for the Big Bang.
And or second, one has the creation model. In that likelihood, God being Omniscient and Omnipotent, speaks the universe into existence and forms the animals and man from the dust of the earth. It's faith in a rock, versus faith in God. And you can slice it anyway you want including the alien occupation theory, one is inevitably left with the same two possibilities from which to choose. To me, the following is the difference and the factor that make faith in a rock a bit harder for most. Faith in God is a gift, passed to us through the Holy Spirit.
Ephesians 2:7-9 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
I'm going to guess the rock heads can't compete with that, LOL.
I am a fan of science and find it fascinating to consider man's advances in that regard. However, I do have a problem, as I have mentioned in the past, with retro-engineering known science with a mix of theory to facilitate acceptance of a notion meant to justify rebellion against the authority of God. For example, the entire library which constitutes the so-called scientific body of work which, is the underpinning for the validity of the theory of evolution. Is the nearly endless litany of speculation and assumptions on top of assumptions, in a literal game of leap frog that spans the epochs and eons. The charts of flora and fauna detailing the life forms of what this so-called science says make up earth's history in geologic terms, has gotten far more complex since my college days. To explain away the problems as real science exposes them, evolutionists had to prop up the the precambrian era by prefacing it with something called a supereon. With 4.5 billion years to work with, evolutionist science now says life started about 4,000 million years ago. If they run into problems again they can just back things up another half a billion years or so. :biggrin:
For my part, they can make it as complex as they want. I know the whole notion that an exploding rock created the universe, complete with the emergence of all life is ridiculous on it's face. FWIW, the same kind of problems plague the viability of global warming (I intend to resist calling it climate change, the new name evironmentalists have come up with). Retro-engineered for the sake of accuracy. It's like pulling a bullet out of the bullseye and putting it in a gun, you can't miss, LOL.
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