[RunItUpTheGut]

these 2 college degrees did the gov help you any ?

No they did not.
I received loans and im currently paying them back, with intrest. Uncle sam will never pay a dime for my loans. They currently reside at some BS bank in Michigan.

Its one of the biggest problems with the educational system. They set people up for failure and debt. If i had the oppertunity to do it all over again, i would not have gone to school.
IMHO, the govt needs to stop making student loans available to kids because all it does is give the liberal public schools the chance to increase tuition as much as the want and convince kids a college education is the only way to go.