[TheRealThing]

Ah, TheRealVille, you refer to Roe v Wade. I suspect that my knowledge of Roe v Wade is superior to that of most. Few have actually read the decision. Have you? I have read it in its entirety- several times. I have lectured on Roe v Wade dozens of times. I am versed in the ins and outs and the politics of the decision. Legal scholars generally agree that Harry Blackmun wrote a weak decision.

The Supreme Court makes bad decisions and justices, like Harry Blackmun, write poor decisions. Check out Chief Justice Roger B. Taney's reasoning in the Dred Scott Case and Justice Henry Brown's logic in Plessy v Ferguson for two good examples. If you need a more modern example, I would recommend the obviously flawed decision of Chief Justice Roberts in the Obamacare Case.

My point, of course, is that the law of human beings are flawed because they are written by men (and women) who have their own agendas. If anyone believes that these decisions are made completely on the merits (as we like to say) and that those making the decisions do so with no personal bias, that person is naive at best and a fool at worst.

Look at our present group of nine. We have four ultra-liberals who would never vote otherwise. We have three conservatives justices who do the same from the other side. We have Roberts who, hopefully (and his history would so indicate) won't leave the reservation (so to speak) in the future. And, we have Kennedy who, in most cases, is a fifth conservative vote. Obama's greatest dream is to have one of the five conservatives die so that he can replace him with a wild-eyed liberal so that he can completely control the judiciary.

Just a bit of interesting trivia. How many Protestants are on the present Court? The answer is zero. It is made up of three Jews (all three ultra-liberal) and six Catholics 9all conservative except for Sotomayor who is, at best a Cafeteria Catholic in the mold of Biden).

Both decisions, like Roe, are immoral.

You nailed it Harry Rex. That has been my argument for years. Man is flawed and yet, even a loose adherence to God's law has preserved him since the dawn of time. I believe that our nation and our system of laws were based largely on precepts of Christianity as depicted in scripture. The more America turns her back on Christian principles of acceptable social behavior, the more we will lapse into chaos. It is no more complex an issue than that.

Now, can we realistically govern ourselves like a theocracy? Of course not. And yet, without the absolute of scripture to use as a basis for comparison, every issue becomes a matter for endless debate in what has become an endless argument about what is right and wrong. In other words, the clear line that marked the boundary separating right from wrong has been blurred by compromise, to become a vast gray area of endless argument, littered by the corpses of jurisprudence past. Men not willing to accept His authority have thusly gone off courting disaster, by passing laws which redefine God's clear teachings of morality.

Some lawyer will always be able to come in and dazzle the court with a cleverly worded argument. And like you said, laws, or arguments against them, are made by men, and men always have their own agendas. This idea that we conservatives are ramming our wants down the throats of others and poking our noses into their lives is a perfect example of that. The law they argue against has stood the test of time for thousands of years. Now up jumps the liberal lemmings from among us and all of a sudden, it is they, the very ones who want to make all the changes, that are crying foul in the face of those same thousands of years worth of tradition.

In short, man has no business legislating morality. But, that is what we're seeing and, I agree with you to a certain extent that the err of man's way will be settled mostly at God's judgment bar. And yet, like Israel, America is special. We founded our American ideals on Christian principles and now that we have turned our backs on Him, we will suffer in our time. I predict that death in the form of lawlessness and Jihad, will stalk our streets. I don't have any idea how serious things will be but, we see the beginnings of birth pangs even now.