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Just incase anybody is wondering.....
TheRealVille Wrote:So, in the same way that Christians are set free from the law, of other abominations, and can do some of them now, like eating shellfish and pork, couldn't gays that get saved get the same grace and be freed to do other things that are abominations to God?



No, folks don't get saved if they are not of a repentant mind. That means no gays who don't consciously and by choice, turn their back on homosexual behavior are saved. As many times as I have posted Romans chap 1, I would have thought that would have sunk in by now. At any rate, being set free of the law means that through salvation, and with the subsequent indwelling of the Holy Spirit, one's nature has been changed and the power of sin is therefore broken. Saved people therefore choose not to live a sinful lifestyle. The occasional uh-oh not withstanding. The only parts of the law that have changed are those that dealt with OT obedience in that they were to live a life of obedience, recognizing that through the future coming of the messiah, they would be saved. They were saved believing in what was to come but, we are transformed at the moment of acceptance of Jesus as Savior because He is already at the right hand of God, and as I mentioned, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
Romans 1:26-32 (KJV)
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Like I have said. Turning to God is a choice. So is worshipping Him as King and Creator. So is turning from sin in a repentant state of Godly sorrow. Those who are in bondage to sin, whether that be drink, drugs, sex outside of marriage (of any kind), gambling addictions, the love of money, forms of idolatry, or whatever else may be first in one's life (other than Jesus Christ). , cannot be saved. He won't be second to anything, certainly not "vile affections" such as homosexuality for which, He made Sodom victim to, in such a spectacular display of judgment. God doesn't make exceptions for any person or group. That's why I say it is so foolhardy for the courts of this land to legalize gay rights, and abortion for that matter. As I have said, that is God's purview and His alone.

God reaffirmed through Paul's writings in the NT book of Romans and other places, His continuing rejection of the homosexual lifestyle. Not eating pork, not being circumcised etc, were done away with at the cross, therefore they don't apply anymore to anybody. That was just a way to set His people apart from other cultures that worshipped idols. The only distinction for God's people after the death of His Son on the cross was the change that was brought on by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. 2 Corinthians 5:17 (KJV)
17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. In NT times nothing is to take away from the fact that it is through His sacrifice and that alone which, provides men with the opportunity to be saved.

Obviously, all gays who feel the call of God to turn. And then do choose to turn from that sin and repent not just for that but all their sin, can be saved. Just like everybody else. But, once God has turned them over to a reprobate mind, they will no longer be reachable.
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Just incase anybody is wondering..... - by TheRealThing - 05-10-2013, 09:26 PM
Just incase anybody is wondering..... - by vector - 05-16-2013, 05:42 PM

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