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obamacare 2 insanely raise premiums in california
TheRealThing Wrote:(1) - Never heard of a plumber with a HVAC license

(2) - You sure you don't mean Med Gas Certification? Again, I never heard of a Med Gas license. At any rate, here is what the KY code book says;

815 KAR 20:195. Medical gas piping installations.
Section 2. Standards and Procedures.

(1) Installation standards. Except that Section 5.1.10.6.6, Branch Takeoffs, shall not be adopted nor enforced within the Commonwealth, a new medical gas piping installation or an addition to an existing medical gas piping system shall comply with the applicable provisions of NFPA 99C, Standard on Gas and Vacuum Systems, 2002 Edition.

(2) Permit required. A licensed master plumber shall make application for a permit to install medical gas piping prior to the installation. To obtain the permit, the master plumber shall:

(a) Pay a fee of thirty-five (35) dollars base permit for the medical gas system for each building;

(b) Pay a fee of five (5) dollars per opening; and

© Identify the person who shall perform the installation. The person making the installation shall be a certified medical gas installer as required by NFPA 99C as well as a licensed journeyman plumber.
(3) Supervision by the master. It shall be the responsibility of the licensed master plumber to ensure that the person doing the installation:


(3) Yeah, in this valley they do.

(4) I've seen a lot of bid packages come in from a lot of duct benders, every time VAV boxes are part of their bid.

(5) Again, this is always part of the duct package and is always sheet metal. If plumbers did it in Martin county it was likely by some fluke, and fitters don't run 3/4 copper that I've ever seen. Sounds like a jurisdictional dispute that got settled by the super or somebody left it out of their bid.

(6) I never doubted you were a traveler.
Did I not say I worked in, and was out of, Michigan for years? At the time I was up there you didn't have to be a plumber to run med gas. You probably still don't, I don't have a clue if it's changed up there or not. Kentucky code doesn't hold water in Michigan, btw. Call it what you want, med gas license or certification, you aren't allowed to run it without having it. I have ran miles of medical gas.

You don't have to be a plumber to run HVAC, I know. Fitters run a lot of copper. If you will notice, I never said plumbers run the VAV boxes in Martin county. I said the fitters did.

I don't care what your bid package says about VAV boxes, I know what the UA constitution says.

Like I said, when I was in Ann Arbor's local, I was a local hand. Most of the time, my work was up there. I stayed there for several years. When I transferred in to Huntington, I am a local hand in Huntington. When I worked in Ashland, I was a traveler. When I work in Lexington, I am a traveler.

You would be best served to not try to tell me about my line of work. You will end up looking more foolish the more you try. You can't read out of a Kentucky code book, because none of my med gas days were in KY. Again, unlike you, my skills can carry me outside of the Ashland area. Different states have different codes.


Now, if you want to talk driving nails, hanging sheet rock, building houses, installing metal studs, and forming for concrete pours, and driving piling, I'll concede that you know that skill better than I do, but you probably don't want to explain my trade to me, especially when you are having to look stuff up on the internet. :Thumbs: Confusednicker:
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obamacare 2 insanely raise premiums in california - by TheRealVille - 06-02-2013, 10:30 PM

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