[Harry Rex Vonner]

Haha. Tomahto tomayto. A "better finished product" is nothing more than code speak for "we turn out better people". If you can't at least be honest enough to admit that all your posturing on here has, at its core, implied or been meant to imply, that private schools are better, then you are hopeless or delusional.

As for bringing up my degrees, I only did so not to impress you, but to reassure you that "I is a fine graduate of one of them thar guvmint schools and still found a way to hang a purity sheepskin on my wall, hyuck", since you have done nothing more than sully every single public or independent school in the state with your overly generic statements. With your "habitual troublemakers" post, are you implying none exist in private schools? If so, believe me, you are hiding under a rock.

Interesting you have failed to respond to my point regarding parental involvement. Am I to take it, based on the lack of a response to that, along with your statement that private school environments are more conducive to providing a better education, that you feel the onus is solely on educators to motivate and educate, and that parents should yield to a teacher's efforts in educating a child and not get involved?

Finally, as I have pointed out, and you have conveniently ignored, even private schools, in order to get and maintain accreditation, must meet/conform to a minimum of state standards. While they can exceed those standards and even do, in many cases, they are not perfect, nor always the perfect solution.

Congratulations on your impressive academic achievements. I'm guessing, since you have 3 degrees from that fine taxpayer subsidized university, you decided to slum it after the rigors of your high school years. How positively Saint Galgani of you.

Your posts do exhibit one lone thread of validity in mentioning that parental involvement is important to the success of the child being educated. I wholeheartedly agree. And, in truth, this is another strong area of private schools. Most private school parents are involved in the education of their children. Most don't sacrifice to send their children to private schools without taking a sincere interest in the operation of that school. And, many private schools demand parental involvement. Your government schools, of course, can't and don't demand much of anything. Actually, without parents being involved, they can better indoctrinate your children with their secular blueprint for the future.

I will be honest and admit that my daughter attended a private school from K4 through high school mainly because we didn't want her exposed to the liberal, politically correct, socially manipulated, spiritually neutral atmosphere of a government school. I realize that the government schools have no choice but to operate as they do. If choosing a private school and doing what was best for my daughter makes me a "snob", I'll plead guilty. If true school choice were an option, there would be tens of thousands more "snobs" like me.

And, you don't need to "congratulate" me on my degrees. The degrees mean nothing other than opening some doors. It is what you do later that counts.