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01-12-2015, 11:21 PM
^^ One can say anything once he has freed himself from the fetters of basic math, the concise economic record of the United States of America, and the replete and detailed economic lessons of his own nation's history. When Obama leaves office the taxpayer will be left with a bill for least 20 Trillion dollars. So, quoting cooked unemployment numbers and the left's story, rather than the truth is not that much of an achievement, much less would that make any semblance of a convincing argument.
Department stores run sales all the time. They offer to take off as much as 75% from the advertised price if the purchase is placed on the store's revolving charge account. The rationale is this. If the customer allows that card balance to roll over for a while, the store will recoup it's original MSRP plus a hefty profit owing to interest. So that coat your wife got for 25% winds up costing far more by the time it's over. The same principles apply to the national economy. The US could never manage to pay back 20 Trillion (or more) in a timely fashion. Rather, it's much convenient to rave on about the fictitious unemployment trends and the Dow Jones Average that everybody knows has been propped up by quantitative easing.
But, by way of timely digression, on his own run up to the White House Mr Obama's main economic talking point was that of trashing George W as being "unpatriotic" for having the temerity to stick the taxpayer with an extra 4 Trillion dollars of national debt. Said 4 Trillion, was added by George W, "all by his lonesome," according to Obama's own words. Liberals were jumping up and down about that back in 2007-08 but, now that Obama is going to add a minimum of 10 Trillion to the national debt "all by his lonesome," the connection of those two dots are never mentioned. Any body else find it odd that more people aren't displeased with Obama's economic legacy, which by the time of his merciful departure will have more than tripled the unpatriotic bench mark established by George W?
The author of your article tries to connect some unlikely dots in the usual stereotypical fashion so overused by the liberal crowd. The initial thrust is to write from the perspective that there is some sort of universally accepted view that conservatives are basically idiots. Therefore the cartoonish artwork and superficial discussion points.
The five points are laughable at best.
5) No Real Scandals. :hilarious: Nobody whose brain cells actually fire once in a while, doubts the Dems commitment to 'circle the wagons ' in the face of withering evidentiary assault. In an effort to avoid yet another rehash of the facts, let's just stick with what we know along the lines cause and effect. If nothing else, the epic nature of the Republican sweep of 2014 proves the voter has indeed awakened to the blatantly obvious. No longer can a mushroom like Nancy Pelosi prevail in presenting the liberal viewpoint as the viable option. The elective tidal wave has swept all that "fog of controversy" away.
4) Better Employment Numbers. Total baloney. If we used the same formula (U6) to calculate the unemployment numbers employed under both Reagan & Bush, we would be north of 11%. Which is better than the 14.7% of last August, but still devastating.
3) Inflation Remains Under Control. Wes starts this point off by using another false premise, citing the inflation rate handed to him (Reagan) by Jimmy Carter (though not mentioning it) which was admittedly stratospheric. While at the same time dodging the completely cleaned up mess that Clinton inherited from Reagan. It was Reagan that steered the US economic ship of state back into charted waters. I will admit freely that at least Clinton was smart enough to recognize success when confronted by it.
2) Obama is Better with the Budget. HUH? One more time; the national debt will be greater than 20 Trillion by November of 2016.
1) It's the Economy, Stupid. Obviously hoping that the predictably shallow attention span of his readers will have kicked in by this time, Wes has saved his most absurdly untenable point for last. And of all people to quote, he chose John Adams who along with his two best friends, Washington and Jefferson, was known to be a committed fiscal conservative. At any rate, as any reputable economist knows, one cannot lay claim to solvency while he owes far more than he has.
One thing I did notice though RV. You and Wes Williams certainly share the same view about what constitutes facts. :biggrin:
Department stores run sales all the time. They offer to take off as much as 75% from the advertised price if the purchase is placed on the store's revolving charge account. The rationale is this. If the customer allows that card balance to roll over for a while, the store will recoup it's original MSRP plus a hefty profit owing to interest. So that coat your wife got for 25% winds up costing far more by the time it's over. The same principles apply to the national economy. The US could never manage to pay back 20 Trillion (or more) in a timely fashion. Rather, it's much convenient to rave on about the fictitious unemployment trends and the Dow Jones Average that everybody knows has been propped up by quantitative easing.
But, by way of timely digression, on his own run up to the White House Mr Obama's main economic talking point was that of trashing George W as being "unpatriotic" for having the temerity to stick the taxpayer with an extra 4 Trillion dollars of national debt. Said 4 Trillion, was added by George W, "all by his lonesome," according to Obama's own words. Liberals were jumping up and down about that back in 2007-08 but, now that Obama is going to add a minimum of 10 Trillion to the national debt "all by his lonesome," the connection of those two dots are never mentioned. Any body else find it odd that more people aren't displeased with Obama's economic legacy, which by the time of his merciful departure will have more than tripled the unpatriotic bench mark established by George W?
The author of your article tries to connect some unlikely dots in the usual stereotypical fashion so overused by the liberal crowd. The initial thrust is to write from the perspective that there is some sort of universally accepted view that conservatives are basically idiots. Therefore the cartoonish artwork and superficial discussion points.
The five points are laughable at best.
5) No Real Scandals. :hilarious: Nobody whose brain cells actually fire once in a while, doubts the Dems commitment to 'circle the wagons ' in the face of withering evidentiary assault. In an effort to avoid yet another rehash of the facts, let's just stick with what we know along the lines cause and effect. If nothing else, the epic nature of the Republican sweep of 2014 proves the voter has indeed awakened to the blatantly obvious. No longer can a mushroom like Nancy Pelosi prevail in presenting the liberal viewpoint as the viable option. The elective tidal wave has swept all that "fog of controversy" away.
4) Better Employment Numbers. Total baloney. If we used the same formula (U6) to calculate the unemployment numbers employed under both Reagan & Bush, we would be north of 11%. Which is better than the 14.7% of last August, but still devastating.
3) Inflation Remains Under Control. Wes starts this point off by using another false premise, citing the inflation rate handed to him (Reagan) by Jimmy Carter (though not mentioning it) which was admittedly stratospheric. While at the same time dodging the completely cleaned up mess that Clinton inherited from Reagan. It was Reagan that steered the US economic ship of state back into charted waters. I will admit freely that at least Clinton was smart enough to recognize success when confronted by it.
2) Obama is Better with the Budget. HUH? One more time; the national debt will be greater than 20 Trillion by November of 2016.
1) It's the Economy, Stupid. Obviously hoping that the predictably shallow attention span of his readers will have kicked in by this time, Wes has saved his most absurdly untenable point for last. And of all people to quote, he chose John Adams who along with his two best friends, Washington and Jefferson, was known to be a committed fiscal conservative. At any rate, as any reputable economist knows, one cannot lay claim to solvency while he owes far more than he has.
One thing I did notice though RV. You and Wes Williams certainly share the same view about what constitutes facts. :biggrin:
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