[Harry Rex Vonner]

^^ None the less, salvation is available to all. Kings, paupers and everybody in between. That is what I believe the framers referred to when they recognized that all men are Created equal, and that further, the unalienable rights granted all men come from the hand of God.

How each man finds his way to God through grace, is according to His plan and I can accept that having found the way myself. And believe me when I tell you, mine were not issues involving the Banana Republic or American Eagle. :biggrin:

From your post, I suspect that you are not familiar with the state of life of those described in my first paragraph. And, I doubt that the framers were referring to salvation when they penned their words. Unalienable rights are God given rights as stated by the framers. The first right mentioned is the right to life. Our country has chosen to ignore that right. I feel sure the framers would be disgusted with how all groups are allowing their words to be misinterpreted.

But, that is modern day America. Those who abandon basic beliefs for convenience flourish and run the show and those who claim to be Christians sit in pews wearing blinders and plan for the next youth event, seniors trip, or potluck dinner. I would hope, and assume, God will hold both groups equally responsible for all the carnage.