[TheRealThing]

From your post, I suspect that you are not familiar with the state of life of those described in my first paragraph. And, I doubt that the framers were referring to salvation when they penned their words. Unalienable rights are God given rights as stated by the framers. The first right mentioned is the right to life. Our country has chosen to ignore that right. I feel sure the framers would be disgusted with how all groups are allowing their words to be misinterpreted.

But, that is modern day America. Those who abandon basic beliefs for convenience flourish and run the show and those who claim to be Christians sit in pews wearing blinders and plan for the next youth event, seniors trip, or potluck dinner. I would hope, and assume, God will hold both groups equally responsible for all the carnage.

I came up hard, Harry. I realized early on that if I were to have a portion of this world's goods, house, car and self sufficiency, it would certainly only come by working.

I respectfully disagree to some extent about the intentions of the framers. When Thomas Jefferson said that "All men are Created equal" his was not a reference to US or English law, it was in fact the creation of man and this universe. Created with rights that other men ought not to try to take away, (but obviously did and still do anyway). Further, that we have certain unalienable rights endowed upon us by that Creator. In citing those two situations, Jefferson is drawing upon the authority of God Almighty for his justification in going over the head of King George in declaring the United States and it's citizens free of the his tyranny.

We stand therefore with certain rights granted to us by said Creator. And, since The Creator's stated interest in man revolves ultimately around man's acceptance or rejection of His Son, Who sacrificed His life on the cross for man, I believe it is safe to assume that is at least in part what Jefferson was alluding to. It certainly belongs in that line of thought. And though, it was never Jefferson's intent to set up US law in a theocratical framework, US law is none the less based on the founder's understanding of the 10 commandments.