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I'd go with the 98 and 04 teams also and would give the edge to the 04 team. The 98 team had an awesome O (obviously), but the 04 team had a pretty darn good O also. One can wonder how good it would have been had Bardo not got hurt against Cincy X. No disrespect to Patrick, but his contribution after replacing the hurt Bardo that year was to simply hand the ball off cleanly to Collinsworth and Fennell and then get out of the way. Birds attempted only 2 passes in the state game against John Hardin because the run O was that good. And John Hardin entered the state game with the state's best rush defense. 3 first team all staters on the 04 O (2 of them o linemen which should tell you something).

But what gives the 04 team the edge was their D. Better than the 98 D. Shut out the Cincy X O until the last minute of the game playing prevent D. Roller was an absolute stud at middle LBer. Only 2 other players that I'd put on his level at Lber are his Uncle Bill (still one tough hombre) and perhaps Marty Moore (who became a much more dominant LBer in college than he was in high school but was very, very good in high school nonetheless).

Kicking game was better on the 04 team also.

The '04 HHS team was a beast on Defense. But they weren't the one's that played John Hardin Charlie. I think your post mixes between 09 and 04. Or maybe I'm just confused. :biggrin: