[Hoot Gibson]

Irrelevant to you, or irrelevant to anyone?

The point of the thread was to show how liberalism has written history in its favor, not to condemn Lincoln as a person. As Harry pointed out, Lincoln likely was influenced by the times and his environment.

Just for the record, Harry is not Hoot and Hoot is not Harry.

My point was and is that anybody who hopes to effect societal change must work within the framework in which they are born. Unless you are born with a large army sworn to follow you blindly, good intentions will not get you very far if you are too extreme to lead many others down a righteous path.

Lincoln and the thousands of troops that died in battle did far more good for black Americans than the extremists who preceded them, such as John Brown.