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01-30-2016, 07:21 AM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:To spare my friends on BGR most of my Trump bashing, I have been spending the past few days building up my small Twitter following (only 16 followers at this time). So far, the two best known people who have begun following me are Dr. Everett Piper, President of Oklahoma Wesleyan University and Jonathan Hoenig of capitalistpig.com and a panelist on Fox News Channel's Cashin' In (a regular panelist), Your World with Neil Cavuto, and Red Eye.
Dr. Piper wrote an article today that appears on thefederalist.com, which I encourage everybody who still support Donald Trump to read. I had not heard of Dr. Piper but my wife remembered him as the author of "This is Not a Day Care. It’s a University!" which he wrote during the recent turmoil at the University of Missouri.
I have always been skeptical of Twitter but after immersing myself in it during our 30 inch snow storm, I confess that I am amazed at the amount of information available there. Not just information, reliable information tweeted by some very smart people. Of course, most of what gets tweeted is garbage, but what I like is that I have a great deal of control over what kind of information I see. If you have not given Twitter a fair trial, I encourage that you give it a try.
I might have to get on board with Twitter, though I generally resist anything that smacks of social media. And I just want to say that I would never intentionally offend you or your wife so, if Dr Piper is someone admired in your household, or if his faith is similar to your own, just know that my post is meant dispassionately.
I read the article you cited. Dr. Piper had quite a long laundry list of grievances against Donald Trump. Now, on a side note, I am certain that should Trump not win the Presidency, neither will he be launching a series of evangelical crusades ala Billy Graham, LOL. But, you can take my word on this one thing. Any man of God worth his salt, is pretty cautious about character assassination especially when the particulars cited, which in this case were intended to validate Piper's scathing rebuke of Trump, are in dispute.
Many have stood up to defend Trump with regard to his supposedly having callously offended the handicapped NY Times reporter. Did he do it, or if so was it done knowingly? You couldn't prove it by me nor could you I suspect, by Mr Piper. Without belaboring this thing too much in taking his points or charges one by one, an awful lot of the items on the good doctor's list are demonstrably arguable. I have heard the following verse misinterpreted and misapplied many times in the past, I am happy therefore to use it in it's correct context and application in this case. Matthew 7:1 (KJV)
V1 "Judge not, that ye be not judged." According to this verse we are "not to judge the inward motives of others in the sense of condemning them" ---J Vernon McGee We don't know their motives or the intent of their heart. Nor do we know that God has given up on them or that they will not come to a saving knowledge of Him.
If Mr Trump has yet to find salvation, and I suspect that could be possible, the child of God is to pray for him, email him, write him letters, call him, or help him find his way to the Lord in any way he can imagine. But Mr Trump is not applying for a job as Rector-in-Chief, he's running for President. And if we're not going to get all up on our high horses and spew all manner of indignation over the activities a couple of the Presidents of recent times, why all of a sudden are we castigating Trump who at least has pledged his loyalty to Christian tenets? In any case, it is possible to be a conservative without being a Christian. Now, I'll grant you. In my view it is impossible for a Christian to vote for candidates who openly support gay rights and abortion on demand, and think he will not suffer loss for having done so. None the less, Dr. Piper more or less wrote off "the Donald" as having a reprobate mind and I refuse to believe that he doesn't know better.
So here's the way I see this thing. If I had to face my Lord for either asking Mr Trump to speak in my University Chapel, or if I wrote an article which virtually puts Mr Trump in the company of the eternally damned to answer for, I'd have him in my Chapel. And I just could not help but wonder, would Dr. Piper feel as strongly about all of this if he had entertained Mr Trump for lunch and a visit to his campus? That is one invitation that very likely did not go out.
The one line of Dr. Piper's tongue lashing that got my attention goes as follows: "I refuse to let my desire to win “trump” my moral compass. I will not sell my soul or my university’s to a political process that values victory more than virtue."
If one Mr Trump had not come along we'd still be up to our eyes in that sticky morass known as political correctness because no Church leaders I know have had the courage to confront it. He (Piper) and everybody else who stands the moral high ground, (or just think they do), owes the awakening completely to Trump. And since we live in the last days I thought just one more Scripture reference as it would apply to political correctness, which denies the sovereignty of God and elevates men, would be apt. Revelation 3:16 (KJV)
V16 "So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." Fence straddling political speech, what are we to do with it, right? At any rate, murdering the messenger seems to be an ongoing fault of the Orthodoxy, does it not?
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