[TheRealThing]

Your post reads like propaganda, at best slanted opinion. Roger Williams believed exactly as I said. If America could provide a safe place for Christians and Jews to live and worship, I am sure Roger Williams would approve. The same would be true for Hindu and Muslim. To say that America is regarded by God (Acts 17:26) is one thing; to suggest it stands in covenant as ancient Israel is, to me, ridiculous.

Well see that's the problem with you. You got hocker on the door knob syndrome and can't concede a point. And like all libs, your revisionist efforts to redefine the lives and the record is what is ridiculous.

You obviously don't have the first clue what Williams believed. That was revealed when you tried to say his separationist views line up with modern liberals. You can't make that fit with the events of England, thankfully you guys cannot rewrite English history too, and you can't make that fit with what happened in his life here in America. The revelation Williams had with regard to his desire to separate himself from the Anglican Church, and that the view he ultimately reached regarding the separation of the Church and the State, was meant to keep the State, as it was fond of doing in England, from intervening in the affairs of the Church. Any other interpretation of the historical record makes no sense whatever.

You did not in your post, in any way name or suggest you thought the Abrahamic Covenant applies directly to Israel and the United States. However, we who have accepted Christ as Lord and Savior are the grafted branch, or if you prefer, we are 'the seed' of Abraham. And what ultimately was the Abrahamic Covenant all about? It was God's own promise to the Jew and Abraham in particular for eternal life without end among other things, to include an increase of Abraham's linage.
Genesis 15:4-5 (KJV)
4 And, behold, the word of the LORD came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir.
5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.


In the Book of Acts this concept is clarified somewhat by New Testament standards, as that relates to people who enjoy a new covenant by virtue of the Lord's substitutionary death on the cross. Thanks to His unspeakable gift, all those alive or who were born after the coming of Christ, have a different covenant with God. The Jew was ever looking forward to the coming of Christ. Once He came, we now look backward to His having come as Lord and Savior to all mankind. Either way it is God's plan to reconcile sinful men to Himself.

Acts 2:39 (KJV)
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.


That is the good news of the Gospel. We are not excluded, we are included by the blood of Jesus Christ.