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03-13-2016, 09:30 PM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:What, no admission that you were wrong about Trump doing nothing to incite violence among his supporters? The clips that I posted were not intended to be comprehensive. Taunting protesters as they are escorted away from or dragged away from Trump events are a routine part of his rallies. Telling supporters to knock the crap out of protesters and promising to pay their legal expenses for doing so clearly crosses the line of civilized behavior.
You implied that Cruz was using his legal skills to avoid technically committing libel against Trump. Whether you like it or not, both Cruz and Rubio made valid points about the atmosphere that Trump's rhetoric creates at his events. That does not make the protesters' actions right, but it does make your assertion that Trump is blameless unsupported by facts and your implication that Cruz's statement flirted with libel wrong.
Also, I never described the protests as "spontaneous," so please stick to creating your own claims and I will compose mine. There is no doubt that at least some of the protests are being carefully planned and executed, but Trump's antics unnecessarily divert attention away from the protesters.
I will freely admit that Trump has incited the ire and the wrath of the establishment. It's the same old ploy, the Republican is going to take away your entitlements. Only this time, the collaborators are strange bedfellows, (Jorge Ramos and Rich Lowry?) and the victims are acting a lot more militant.
Otherwise, one would have to believe that protestors are like a country or a people unto themselves. And thus when they see other protestors get a dose of their own medicine at a Trump rally somewhere, they naturally are going to as a group, organize a more forceful effort. From whence would this protestor esprit de corps emanate? You did not use the word spontaneous, I agree. But for your argument to hold water it would have been inferred, in my view, and any scenario other than that of being spontaneous would render the whole thing theatric, manufactured and illegitimate.
So, were others who resent Trump's language actually pulling the protestor's strings? Consequently then, were those protestors motivated out of personal dispute, or are they useful idiots? Trump's critics may very often have a point, or a legitimate ax to grind as far as decorum and Emily Post. That does not give them the right to crack open Saul Alinsky's playbook, in my book.
And thank you for admitting that these protestors, are very likely plants. Put there to create havoc in an historic attempt to interdict what has always been heretofore, a fair and orderly political process.
No disrespect intended Hoot, and this is no thinly veiled slam against you, but I see people hiding behind some pretty despicable straw men here.
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Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-11-2016, 05:04 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Granny Bear - 03-11-2016, 05:13 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-11-2016, 08:01 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Granny Bear - 03-11-2016, 08:11 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by WideRight05 - 03-11-2016, 08:12 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Granny Bear - 03-11-2016, 08:18 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by 64SUR - 03-11-2016, 10:37 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 12:45 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-12-2016, 02:23 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Granny Bear - 03-12-2016, 02:36 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-12-2016, 03:57 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by RunItUpTheGut - 03-12-2016, 05:50 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 01:40 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 01:59 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-12-2016, 05:31 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-12-2016, 05:52 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 06:30 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by WideRight05 - 03-12-2016, 07:07 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-12-2016, 07:22 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-12-2016, 07:25 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 07:26 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by WideRight05 - 03-12-2016, 07:42 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-12-2016, 07:49 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by WideRight05 - 03-12-2016, 08:05 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 08:15 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by 64SUR - 03-12-2016, 08:25 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-12-2016, 08:42 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by WideRight05 - 03-12-2016, 08:48 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by 64SUR - 03-12-2016, 08:56 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-12-2016, 08:58 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 09:32 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-12-2016, 10:12 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by 64SUR - 03-12-2016, 10:23 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 10:26 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 10:30 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-12-2016, 10:46 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-12-2016, 10:48 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Granny Bear - 03-12-2016, 10:51 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by 64SUR - 03-12-2016, 11:05 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 11:07 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2016, 11:28 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-13-2016, 12:38 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-13-2016, 03:10 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 03:18 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-13-2016, 03:24 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 03:36 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-13-2016, 03:46 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 04:13 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-13-2016, 04:56 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 05:18 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-13-2016, 05:37 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 06:18 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-13-2016, 06:51 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 09:25 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-13-2016, 03:06 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 06:00 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-13-2016, 06:43 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 07:34 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-13-2016, 08:34 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 08:46 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Demarcus ware - 03-13-2016, 09:07 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-13-2016, 09:30 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by WideRight05 - 03-13-2016, 09:48 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 09:54 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-13-2016, 10:43 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-14-2016, 12:21 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-14-2016, 01:48 AM
Carson Endorses Trump - by Motley - 03-14-2016, 08:36 PM
Carson Endorses Trump - by The Urban Sombrero - 03-14-2016, 08:49 PM
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Carson Endorses Trump - by RunItUpTheGut - 03-15-2016, 03:38 AM
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