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08-05-2016, 04:33 AM
The Urban Sombrero Wrote:I would say prior to the Big Rain the state of man was entirely depraved. I would say no one dies these days from infected tonsils. I would say potable water reaches nigh 99% of all Americans, minus Flint.
I have tried to find where I have ignored the massive problems and "the human heart is desperately wicked" evidence all around. I can't find it. However, just to simply bash everything is to make a fundamental theological error I saw through clearly years ago.
The suggestion that in many ways life in 2016 is preferable to 1952 seems non-controversial to me. In saying that, one is not ignoring the negative, the wicked, the horrific in my view. The good seed grows in the midst of the tares. I doubt it offends God that polio is almost gone from the face of the earth.
^^You're defining the secular humanistic way of thinking. So, we've abandoned Jefferson completely, for Scripture in which you say you saw fundamental theological error years ago?
Romans 7:18 (KJV)
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
The only good thing in man is imputed the day he finds Christ. You just quoted the Scripture yourself. Jeremiah 17:9 (KJV)
9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Before the flood man had gotten so wicked God said the following; Genesis 6:13 (KJV) 13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
Man got to that point once before and that was the reason for the great flood. As I have laid out for you before, I believe the Bible is full of accounts in which God has regulated man's progress over time, (such as confounding his language at Babel) to orchestrate the events of history to it's inevitable end, Armageddon. There is nothing good in mankind. (that would be God's standard of good, not the standard of men)
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A Fundamental Question - by The Urban Sombrero - 08-02-2016, 06:36 PM
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A Fundamental Question - by The Urban Sombrero - 08-04-2016, 08:33 PM
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