[TheRealThing]

Enough. You are plainly a Christian reconstructionist with a romantic, non-historical understanding of the beginning periods of this nation.

We have never been a country of angels guided by a Council of saints. Early America was a moral morass:

• One in five people in the new nation was enslaved.

• Justice for the poor meant stocks and stockades.

• Women suffered virtual peonage.

• Heretics were driven into exile, or worse.

• Native people - the Indians - would be forcibly removed from their land, their fate a "trail of tears" and broken treaties.

For most of our history, people of color were viewed as of lower common denominator than Caucasian. The "highest common denominator" reading of our Constitution is what seeks to set aside the natural biases and prejudices and ignorance of fallen human nature.

As for essential liberty and freedom of conscience, if you can't see them, I have no cure for willful, stubborn, stiff-necked blindness.

Did you just tell me enough? I'll decide if and when to post or not to post, and about what. Thanks, I've read the documents and I saw how some of the races were viewed. It was in a word, unfortunate. All that had to be done to make things right was for the rest of us to be inclusive with the applications of the language and starting in 1863 with no small amount of slings and arrows it was problem solved. That is until Democrats saw an opportunity to use black people as vote farms. Further, I don't know about you but I've known quite a few women who just would not accept responsibility for their own miscues. Hillary being the apex denier to that regard. So, I can sort of see why initially women were not allowed to vote and hold office. :biggrin:

But since you want to go there, I'll oblige. It was the Democrats who would not be reasonable with regard to the slave situation. Abraham Lincoln and those who agreed with him formed the Republican Party in opposition to those who would not abate their stance on slavery.

Thus it was not a geographical issue, north versus south according to the rationale of the Rebel Flag, the south and her plantations. The climate dictated the location of the plantations, the politicians dictated the climate of the government.

That does not mitigate the effectiveness and wisdom of the Constitution. Nor does it give license to make changes for light and transient causes. And BTW, if you can't see the big picture with regard to the survival of this nation I for one am thankful that you only have one vote. You can't use perceived injustices from a century and a half ago to validate things like making the sexually deviant a protected class.