[TheRealThing]

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"And this is the verdict (judgment): that God sent His light into the world but the world preferred darkness." We are not condemned for possessing a nature at birth unreconciled, as in this we had no choice. However, well, the verse is clear.

Again, recognizing freedom of conscience and delighting in choices made are separate things. Now, granted, the Founder's were not a monolithic block of solid opinion, and most, if not all, were of a landed gentry sort, yet interpreting the Constitution in the highest reading of pluralism and equality and protection under the law, if it be revisionist (it is not), is a necessary corrective to slavery and Jim Crow and other atrocities carried out whilst the Constitution was the supreme governing document of our nation.

The verse of which you speak is talking about Jesus Christ, whom this world rejected, preferring darkness. Darkness, in the form of men supposing themselves to be wise enough to discern a path to eternal life which is different from the following... Ephesians 2:8-10 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.


But wow, you are one scrambled egg omelet! By one man (Adam) sin was passed to all men AT BIRTH. Romans 5:12 (KJV)
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

I knew you were messed up, and the more you reveal the more messed up you prove yourself to clearly be. Anybody tricked by such heresy is lost, and the blood of anybody you've influenced with the nonsense you just posted, is on your hands.

And your assessment of the persons of the Founders and their intentions, is even farther out in space. Bringing the same old things back up again, over and over, doesn't make your positions any more firm. It just means you are untrainable. Nobody on here will be converted to your constitutional lunacies, but you'll keep trying. I've shot your ridiculous arguments down enough times already.