[TheRealThing]

The "Jay" group did not win the day, so to speak. The size and powers of the newly formed federal government might have remained at issue, but the United States was not to have an established religion. Of course, Christianity was then, and is now, the unofficial, go-to religion, but it is not the established one. You continue to count hands. You're still wrong. All who read the minutes, the notes objectively will reach this conclusion. Your "I need to believes" notwithstanding. And, you're a weasel. You know exactly what I mean.

You're online after the fact, researching and striving to divert attention away from the fact that YOU SAID Jefferson was at the Constitutional Convention. HE WASN"T THERE And though I will be first to admit you are an epic blower of smoke, no amount of smokescreening will hide that fact.

Further, and I know how much you like that lead off, nobody said a thing about dissecting the machinations of the convention, and nobody cares to be subjected to your belated though still self proclaimed arrival of awareness on the matter. I knew off the top of my head that Jefferson did not go to the convention because I majored in history. Your lying subversions notwithstanding, another term you've managed to steal from my example, and though nobody on here I know buys your act anyway, and though your whole presence on here is obviously an act meant to bolster the cause of mindless liberalism, it is nonetheless too late to play the professor now.

You are no more the expert on the Constitution than you are on Christianity. Excuse me, I meant theologiciencisms. And lest you forget what started all of this, you libs knowingly make the false claim that Jefferson was the alpha and omega of the founding documents. And he did have a lot to do with them but certainly not more than Madison and many others. Jefferson was a brilliant speaker and a brilliant author and was commissioned of the others to write the Declaration. Even then his work was proofread and edited to the satisfaction of all concerned, including himself. Lacking any credible source of evidence whatever, all of the inhabitants of La-La Land therefore, have collectively attempted to justify their spiritually rebellious and otherwise un-American and subversive hopes, and therefore their rabid advocacies, on the spiritual confusion of just one man, that man of course being Jefferson. You're enamored with Jefferson because he is the only one of the framers with whom Godless libs can identify. And it is on that teensy sliver of conjecture that your liberal imagineers base all of their revisionist machinations. Which of course is the fodder of your parrotings.

So when stripped of all the guile, the real argument you make becomes clear. Your problem is with our society's proud tradition of honoring God openly, which of course has always been my position, my privilege and my God given charge. Your frothing and 'Exorcist' worthy rants are on the other hand, against all Godly principles as they are legendary on this site. I hope you're proud of yourself because you've earned it. The societies of this world are full of the deniers of God. For example, Evolutionism is nothing more than men denying God as Creator and therefore Judge. And just as the Evolutionist's tremendously complex scaffolding of the classifications and eras have been posthumously layered to the argument are nothing more than extrapolated clever deceptions, so are the liberal justifications of the fake constitutionalist. You fool nobody.