[TheRealThing]

Because Julian Assange is known for being honest. :lmao: He wouldn't even talk to investigators in his rape case. Instead he 'honorably' took refuge in the Ecuadorian embassy.

I'm not in the position to point out the evidence for hacking or influence. But I can point again to Trumps own position and words, his own Director of National Intelligence, his own National Security Advisor, his own Vice President, his 535 member Congress, his own Cyber Command 4 star general, his own FBI and CIA directors, his own attorney general, his own deputy attorney general, etc.

I voted for Trump. Will likely vote for him again. I'm also a card carrying member of the Republican Party, a diehard conservative, a 8 year veteran of Active Duty Army (Cav Scout and Combat Medic with 2 tours in Iraq).... but above all, I'm an American with pragmatic tendencies. And I trust Trump and his many chiefs/advisors that all agree with the assessment that Russia meddled in the election. Let me repeat again, Do I think it changed the results of the election? NO. I have yet to meet anyone willing to admit that they voted for trump because of this. However, that doesn't negate the facts and views of Trumps entire intelligence, law enforcement, and military team.

In my study of this issue, I have met only a couple of people of disagree with their assessments. And they reside within these forums.

Collusion didn't happen. Thats pretty plain to see. But we have intelligence intercepts showing that Russians were involved, and at high levels. I don't know what the big deal is with you admitting that? It doesn't delegitimize the presidency. It shows strength in recognizing that we have enemies, and that we are going to deal with it appropriately. Notice, Trump didn't remove sanctions on Russia when he came into office. Why is that? Is he took weak to make that decision? No. He intuitively knew that Russia was involved. Which is why he said:

“As far as hacking, I think it was Russia, Hacking’s bad, and it shouldn’t be done. But look at the things that were hacked, look at what was learned from that hacking."

"And I will give Reince Priebus credit, because when Reince saw what was happening in the world and with this country, he went out and went to various firms and ordered a very, very strong hacking defense. And they tried to hack the Republican National Committee and they were unable to break through."

"With that being said, I'll go along with Russia"

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As I said, I trust Trump and his team on this.

You keep your head in the sand a bit longer. Maybe it was Seth Rich haha.

As I said, there is no debate. I'm done with this thread. You guys crack me up.

You know you seem like a reasonable guy to me. But why take things so personal when you clearly cannot back up what you're saying? I will take what the likes of those such as John Bolton, Lou Dobbs, Sean Hannity, General Thomas McInerny, General Jack Keene, Jay Sekulow, and many many others have said on the matter. The evidence, past that which has been modestly outlined on here, does not exist.

And if your were around during the days of Ronald Reagan, then you surely have seen the degradation which has occurred among the ranks of the media. They do lie the suit their own political aspirations these days, and the Russian collusion story is just one example.