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11-07-2017, 02:04 PM
Hound05 Wrote:I was using that as an example- NOT as a fact- for the bigger picture. obviously I have no idea how well he does or doesn't do his job, nor really care, it was a metaphor. He may be the best thing since sliced bread, that's not the point, and that's not the basis of the post. It wasn't meant as a personal attack- obviously- or I wouldn't have put my schools coach in there. No need to get pissy about it brother. You looked at one line of the entire post and took it personal when that's not the context it was meant for. Sorry if it "offended" you. I said there is a lot of coaches who do well as teachers, according to your history with him, he probably belongs in that group (even though hes a counselor). The message is, why are we making great coaches take up spots as teachers, when their heart isn't in it, when someone else's would? We basically hire them to coach, let them coach. Or do you disagree with that?
Apparently my post came off the wrong way. It wasn't my intention to come off as pissy or offended. I got what you were saying and was illustrating how Belfry handles the coaches in the classroom issue when they can, while alos noting that Haywood was able to fill his school roll without it impacting his school job or his coaching job because it wasn't too overwhelming and the students aren't being cheated. Now I did attend a school in grade school where the basketball coach taught science, lets just say during basketball season we didn't learn a lot of science. I agree that Coaches shouldn't be bothered with being in a Classroom if they are hired to Coach, most times it is convenient though to also work at the school because that is where most of their income comes from and it guarantees a schedule that will work with their sport.
If I read the bylaws correctly most of our coaches, including Coach Haywood are classified as Level 1 coaches. I don't think any school who wants to keep their Coach will be impacted by this retirement issue because they can just become Level 2 coaches, which I believe doesn't require them to be employed by the school. They can retire from teaching and still be able to be paid for coaching as Level 2 if I read things correctly.
Now what I haven't been able to find is if Level 2 coaches are paid more than level 1 coaches, which is why we see more Level 1's. Level 1 coaches are usually paid a stipend of 8-12K (last time I saw, may be higher now). I know here in GA over 25 coaches are making 6 figure salaries with the highest paid coach making about 175K. Those guys are all teachers, teaching 2 classes a day making teaching salaries, but they are getting several different incentives to get to that point. One Coach is making a salary for teaching ($70,870.00); working an extra 50 days ($18,650.00); and a supplement for coaching football ($16,500.00), plus incentives for playoffs and state titles. This is how most of their contracts work. Another coach who doesn't teach is making 57K a year just coaching football. If this is the case in KY then it makes sense for the school financially to hire a teacher who can coach an only pay a small stipend vs a full salaried coach and a separate teacher.
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