[TheRealThing]

I got a few minutes... things are about to get alot worse... greed is everywhere. That is what we are really talking about with healthcare, shops opening on Sunday, tax laws, welfare, both corporate and individual, environmental standards, "news" stations, abortion, gay marriage, murder, divorce...

The American Dream and the Christian Dream are two totally separate things.

Why did Jesus who only had a three year ministry spend so much time talking about money, he spent more time talking about money then even Heaven or Hell.

Now could you imagine trying to bring back the year of jubliee? Could you imagine if everyone sold all of their possessions and follow Christ? Could you imagine you just gave away so no one had need.

Then what would be the purpose of gay marriage... remember they wanted the same tax breaks and have all the legal rights that come with that...

what would be the purpose of an abortion, financially, it makes no difference at that point

why would you murder your neighbor, you have everything you need, would you need a gun?

would stores be open on sunday... no what would be the point

would people need welfare... no because there would be no need

would there be taxes... what would you tax

Now is that the American Dream? Lord no, it is communism or socialism depends on who owns the things.

Now to your questions...
Baptist Health group is how we do it. Do we have a hospital near you? That is a start. Gun Control... you could calm being non-violent... Martin Luther King Jr. (even though he used politics to get the Civil Rights Bill passes... he was Baptist minister)...I got to go.

Listen, all I was looking for was how you could defend your liberal views. Don't get me wrong, you're a great Democrat. You will never convince me it's okay to support candidates who openly vow to further the cause and body count, of the abortion on demand crowd.

I don't have the first clue what you were going on about with regard to the American dream and please spare me any further explanation.

To your ongoing obsession with the year of Jubilee. According to Col 2:14 Old Testament ordinances were nailed to the tree along with our Lord.
Colossians 2:14 (KJV) 14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Jesus, in living His life and offering Himself to be sacrificed, fulfilled the law in every respect. And in said fulfillment He provided us something no man could ever do in any respect. Reconciliation with God the Father through His shed blood. But Jubilee was attached to the 'Law' as it applied to the Sabbath. Jubilee ceased to be applicable to men as of the day Jesus gave Himself on the cross. After that the age of grace prevailed as 'the law' had, in His death, been satisfied.

Regardless of the sign hanging over your Church door, you are a liberal my friend. If you feel the Lord is speaking to you in telling you to sell all that you have and then give all the proceeds to the poor, you should do it in my view. I personally think that is a ridiculous heresy but I would never tell you not to obey. God gave the New Testament Church explicit instructions on giving.
1 Corinthians 16:2 (KJV)
2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

^^ This is the guideline for the Church and her giving practices.



In no way did I ask you a question as if I had anything to learn. I asked how you could support abortion and gay rights and of course you danced around a bit, slimed me again with your ongoing confusion about Old Testament Law, and then excused yourself. The whole thing was a bit disjointed and meaningless, but better than I was expecting.