[Old School Hound]

An honest question for those who are crying about the election being rigged. Was your outrage just as vociferous and demonstrative in 2016 when it was shown that Trump's comrades, the Russians , interfered to rig the election in Trump's favor?  Hoot said that there is no way a" feeble old man suffering from dementia"(not true, btw) could have gotten more votes than Obama or Hillary. How could a lifelong con man that has failed in virtually every business venture he undertook have gotten more votes that an accomplished professional and experienced diplomat like Clinton?  We know Russia had a role. Did you show your outrage then?

You know, I became convinced that this Trump thing is a cult when talking to my dear mother.  Mom used to be a fervent Bill and Hillary Clinton supporter.  A few years ago, she began to rely on social media for her sole source of "news."  She became vulnerable to ridiculous conspiracy theories and became a Trump "follower. "  I asked her back during the summer if there is anything Trump could do that would change her mind and make her drop her support for him. Rape? Murder? Treason? Pedophilia?  What mom, would lose your support?  "Absolutely nothing," mom replied. I knew then that there was no way to  change the thinking of a MAGA/QANON person.  Serious deprogramming would have to occur.  I think the Tea Party opened the door  to what the GOP has morphed into today. With the way Texas, Ga, and Arizona is changing demographically and with the once Mitt Romney-John McCain-Ronald Reagan-George Bush Republican Party being usurped by Trump, the GOP may never win another Presidential election. Texas will be blue in 2024 and it's "game over" for the Trump Party.

I agree about Trumpism being a cult.  What scares me is that Trump has shown the pathway to bringing down our Democracy to others who are much more intelligent and knowledgeable in the workings of government.



Astute observation.  Scary indeed.

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An honest question for those who are crying about the election being rigged. Was your outrage just as vociferous and demonstrative in 2016 when it was shown that Trump's comrades, the Russians , interfered to rig the election in Trump's favor?  Hoot said that there is no way a" feeble old man suffering from dementia"(not true, btw) could have gotten more votes than Obama or Hillary. How could a lifelong con man that has failed in virtually every business venture he undertook have gotten more votes that an accomplished professional and experienced diplomat like Clinton?  We know Russia had a role. Did you show your outrage then?

You know, I became convinced that this Trump thing is a cult when talking to my dear mother.  Mom used to be a fervent Bill and Hillary Clinton supporter.  A few years ago, she began to rely on social media for her sole source of "news."  She became vulnerable to ridiculous conspiracy theories and became a Trump "follower. "  I asked her back during the summer if there is anything Trump could do that would change her mind and make her drop her support for him. Rape? Murder? Treason? Pedophilia?  What mom, would lose your support?  "Absolutely nothing," mom replied. I knew then that there was no way to  change the thinking of a MAGA/QANON person.  Serious deprogramming would have to occur.  I think the Tea Party opened the door  to what the GOP has morphed into today. With the way Texas, Ga, and Arizona is changing demographically and with the once Mitt Romney-John McCain-Ronald Reagan-George Bush Republican Party being usurped by Trump, the GOP may never win another Presidential election. Texas will be blue in 2024 and it's "game over" for the Trump Party.

I agree about Trumpism being a cult.  What scares me is that Trump has shown the pathway to bringing down our Democracy to others who are much more intelligent and knowledgeable in the workings of government.

I believe that we reside in parallel universes and each of us believes that the other lives in the Bizzaro universe.


Lol. I think you're right. But let me say I appreciate the opportunity to talk politics with those like yourself who enjoy the topic. Maybe we can find one or two points of agreement once in awhile .  Even in parallel universes, surely a thought or two eventually finds the same wavelength. Thanks for the discussion.

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You can’t comprehend Biden’s appeal? His main appeal was that his opponent was Donald J. Trump. There were a number of Democratic candidates that would have garnered even more votes than Biden, and won the electoral college vote by an even greater amount. It would have taken an unspeakably bad candidate for most of us 80,000,000 plus that voted AGAINST Trump to have considered not making that choice. We despise him, Hoot and TRT, we think he is one of the worst humans to ever disgrace the office of the Presidency. We don’t despise the Bushes, most of us had respect for Reagan, but Trump is a different animal altogether. There is nothing you guys could ever post that will sway us from that. We can’t for the life of us understand how any halfway-educated person can voice support for such a reprehensible man. But that’s what makes the world go round.

Absolutely !  I was going to post but you said it for me. I watched hundreds of videos of lifelong Republicans(Republicans Against Trump) who felt the same way most Democrats did-they would walk fifty miles over broken glass just to vote against Trump. This guy is different from Bush 41, Bush 43, or Reagan. I wasn't crazy about their politics but I didn't despise them. They had a sense of decency and honor. They weren't despicable people like Trump is. This man has been a con from the time of his "bone spurs" to the present. Biden received over 80,000,000 votes and won by an overwhelming margin because Americans wanted to fire Donald Trump. Eighty million souls realized they were in danger of having their democracy stripped away by a wannabe autocrat.