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Hoot, I’m starting to wonder if many of these “liberals” are one and the same. You notice how they each parrot the same rhetoric and yet none of them can ever form a coherent, reasonable response to the material that has been posted?

I haven't read the material that has been posted in this thread  but I promised Hoot that I would, and I will .  I'll read it thoroughly when I get the time to devote a few hours to read and digest it.  We are so polarized nowadays in our politics that I don't think either Progressives or Trumpites are very open to perspectives that are different from their own.

That ones on me Old School Hound, my phone only caught the top parts of your post and not part where you said that you would read Hoot's information and I appreciate that you will take the time to read that. Definitely my mistake.

I do agree regarding politics being polarized, it's tough to have a conversation with anyone these days. I have read your perspective and will share mine. I know Hoot can speak for himself with these issues but for one questioning Hoot's strong support with Trump (this isn't anything you've brought up but just for reference) if you go back to posts from 2016 several conservatives on this board were split over Donald Trump. Hoot or I were the strongest in opposition to Trump during that time period and you'll see many posts especially from Hoot criticizing Trump. I was set to vote for Darrell Castle until he backtracked from conservative positions later on in the election cycle. Hoot may correct this but I believe he was set to write in Austin Petersen. Personally I felt that Trump wouldn't cast conservative votes or push conservative legislation.

If you go further back from 2016 you'll see posts from TRT, Hoot, Bob Seger, Granny Bear, just about any conservative on this board venting frustration with what was a Republican Party that constantly caved in to demands from the other side and even acted apologetic for defending conservatism. We had a president and cabinet that would constantly label those in opposition haters, bigots, deplorables, all in the name of love and supposedly showing respect toward people whom you might disagree with. Conservatives were hoping that somebody at some point would step up and fight back.

Then comes Donald Trump. Not the most conservative guy or even a conservative by some senses, but he’s fighting back hard. Then the party of love starts riots, questions the legitimacy of Trump’s presidency (which is one reason I don’t feel the least bit bad about Trump fighting back in this situation), and goes on an all-out assault to harass Trump and his supporters. Take a look at what's happened with Maxine Waters encouraging harassment of Trump supporters or others even encouraging that restaurant establishments not serve Mitch McConnell, Ted Cruz, or other conservative politicians.

I agree with you that the fighting is high, it's certainly the highest that it has been in my young lifetime. I think what you will also see though, if you do want to look back, is between Hoot, TRT, or whoever, each of them at some point on this board have been heavily critical of Republicans almost equally with what you're seeing the criticism of the election. Hoot, TRT, and I strongly agree on many issues but you will also won't see hesitancy from any of us to criticize that which we disagree with. Look at some most of the liberals that have posted on this board (unless some of these are people pretending to be liberals for giggles) and you won't see that same ability to comprehend and think for themselves. TRT, Hoot, and I debated, sometimes strongly, over Donald Trump four years ago. That being said, if I disagreed with what was posted not one time did they just throw some random link out and dismiss what was at hand. They gave an educated, understandable response and even if you disagree then there's still a level of respect that can happen. IMO a big problem with our society lies with the inability to communicate properly.