[Hoot Gibson]

Pence, by all accounts another man of faith, swallowed hard and did it for a while Old School Hound. I will always, always believe he thought Trump had no chance of winning in 2016, that he signed on to just raise his national profile for possible future runs.  I’m sure the last four years have been torturous for him. Do you notice how he has totally distanced himself from what Trump is throwing out there now? If he really believed it, he would be screaming bloody murder right alongside him. But instead he has mostly disappeared from the national view, and when he does get a question about it, he just gives a generic response.  The Trumpers on here refuse to address that because they know it’s true.

  Now, TRT is gonna give you some hell over your Planned Parenthood response, but I agree with you 100%. I have no right as a man to tell some woman I don’t even know what she can or can’t do with her body. Sure, I wish abortions didn’t happen, but as a moral issue it should just be between those involved.  I find most to be so hypocritical on this issue anyway. I guarantee you, 75% of them, if their 14 or 15 year-old daughter came home pregnant, would ‘temporarily’ forgo their standards.

Couldn't agree with you more, on all accounts. Those on the right like to say that Progressive-minded people are abortion lovers. In more than five decades of life, I have yet to meet a Progressive who loves abortion. Just as you stated so well,  I just believe that is a decision for a woman, in consultation with her family and doctors. It's not a decision for a bunch of old white men in Congress or men in black robes. I value life for all people, young and old. Like most all progressives, I am not a fan of abortion. But I have to believe(as four out of five Americans do) that it has to remain a woman's choice.   Again, as you stated, Trump would host pro-abortion rallies and parties if he thought it would benefit him politically.  He has no core values when it comes to abortion or anything else.  He just tells his followers what they want to hear. He even mocks  his supporters  in private, according to sources close to him.

Now... once again, for those who believe the election was stolen, what should happen next?

Ideally, the following would happen:

1. The state legislatures of Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, and Arizona would meet and review the evidence of election fraud that has been presented. For each state where it is determined that the number of illegal votes cast for Biden exceeds the margin of victory claimed by the Biden campaign, the state legislatures would name Trump electors and send them to Washington to elect Donald Trump as president.

2. In each case where discarding illegal ballots changes the winner of House of Representatives, U.S. Senate, or any other election, the rightful winner would be declared the official winner. The process of correcting the initial results of the election would vary by specific election.

3. In every instance where voting machines made by Dominion Voting Systems was used and in every instance where Smartmatic voting machines or software, or voting machines or software based on Dominion or Smartmatic designs was used, the Supreme Court would order statewide election results be audited.

4. The Supreme Court would order that states in which audit results prove widespread election fraud occurred using unsecure voting machines, tabulators, and/or software, stop using such systems immediately.

5. The Department of Justice would name a special prosecutor to criminally prosecute every person who knowingly participated in election fraud in the 2020 election. Those who are determined to are determined to have conspired to rig the elections in multiple states would be charged with treason and punished to the maximum extent allowed by law.

6. If foreign countries are found to have participated in election fraud in our election, severe economic sanctions would be imposed on them.

7. All foreign nationals from countries found guilty of interfering in our election would be deported immediately, including students studying at American universities.

In the event that some or all of the state legislatures do not meet in time to consider the evidence, then the Supreme Court should hear the evidence and take similar actions.

If allegations of widespread, organized fraud are substantiated to install candidates who did not receive a plurality of votes, or in the case of the presidential election, did not win sufficient states to win the Electoral College election, what do you believe would be the appropriate remedy? You seem inclined to simply assume that there is nothing to the allegations and assume that the candidates you supported are victims of fraudulent claims. Do you believe that hundreds of people who have signed sworn affidavits have committed perjury and that the video and statistical evidence has been faked?