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Down the Drain
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(04-14-2021, 09:24 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(04-14-2021, 06:00 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(04-14-2021, 01:17 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: ^^ It was not a natural gas failure, it was an equipment failure. Texas is normally very temperate, but natural gas turbines froze this time because they weren't winterized. Likely a money savings gamble, who knows. That doesn't change the fact that in no way does the situation cast doubt on the existing wisdom of power generation; as if renewables are going to be somehow more reliable. Renewables don't even exist.

I wanted Cardfan to step up and inform us so I could expose his deceit, but I'll accept your effort Outsider. Natural gas is part of the power grid, it wasn't a natural gas failure, the gas was there.
Austin American-Statesman--
Grant Ruckel: “Pipelines do not freeze. They are naturally insulated. They’re buried beneath the ground.”

PolitiFact's ruling: True
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/pol...596289001/

The global warming alarmists up and down the line are always on hand to flood the news with supportive data and findings to advance their agenda. NONETHELESS, this thread is about the fact that funding for NG and nuclear concerns will not be included if the Dems get their way on the infrastructure bill.
Sorry, I was busy today, TRT.  Glad Vector could keep you busy and you didn’t have rewatch Tucker or Sean from last night Big Grin 

so the gas equipment failed because they failed to winterize the system. Wonder who said that early in the thread?
TRT, you know why some of the turbines failed?  They weren’t winterized either.  

Both systems had the same problem: failure of oversight.


And I am glad to see a day at work did not lessen your propensity to lie your head off. You inferred the problem in Texas was due to natural gas failures, or larger, the fossil fuels energy grid. Which in the way you presented is patently untrue. Natural gas is very reliable and has been for the past century or more. Shoddy maintenance or failure to winterize equipment in a temperate zone is a management issue. Not a natural gas failure. This whole Texas song and dance is your attempt to highjack the thread at best. A thread BTW which is about Congress defunding nuclear and NG relative to the proposed new energy grid, a federal matter, not a Texas matter. But that's what liberals do, change the subject and argue till dawn about something that has only the remotest bearing on the issue at hand.

The overarching point past all your haze, is that US reliance on fossil fuels is very real. The story about the frozen turbines was purposefully mitigated by the same energy companies that just invested a lot of customer capital in erecting them. The fact that winter time operation of wind power is a near write off was thrown in to further deflect away from the issue, according to the Texas energy commission. In other words you can dance on the head of that pin all you want. Renewables are a joke. Wind doesn't perform well in the wintertime and neither does solar.

So you tell me there Cardfan. If fossil fuels and nuclear drop off the chart all of a sudden, how are we going to close the energy shorfall gap in Texas or anywhere else with renewables which at the present supply only 3% of demand? My point about fossil fuels is self evident.
LIAR!!  Big Grin  

Hooter has disappeared, and I haven’t seen that one in a few days. 

this is what I posted on earlier in the thread.  

“Nope.  The failure to winterize every component of the system from renewable to fossil fuel caused the blackout.  That's what happens when state govt. thinks it is a business instead of a service to the people.      

Dude, you created this thread with an implication that green energy fails even though that was a disingenuous lie told by Tucker and Texas Republicans.  I just pointed out fossil fuels are no more reliable when you don't pour the antifreeze in.”

The fossil fuel failure was obviously bigger because Texas was more reliant on fossil fuels like the rest of the nation.  Have you ever thought it could be a good idea for America to diversify its energy? 

I guess renewables are only a joke on American soil like many things that work only in the rest of the work. 

and is Congress defunding NG and Nuclear power? Really? 

This whole socialism you’re begging for is sidebar comedy.
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Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-13-2021, 12:10 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by vector#1 - 04-13-2021, 01:20 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-13-2021, 02:10 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by vector#1 - 04-13-2021, 03:28 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-13-2021, 03:42 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by vector#1 - 04-13-2021, 05:18 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by vector#1 - 04-13-2021, 05:40 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by Cardfan1 - 04-13-2021, 02:19 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-13-2021, 02:48 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by Cardfan1 - 04-13-2021, 03:09 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-13-2021, 03:29 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-13-2021, 03:31 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by Cardfan1 - 04-13-2021, 05:26 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-13-2021, 10:31 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by Cardfan1 - 04-13-2021, 10:45 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-13-2021, 10:52 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by Cardfan1 - 04-13-2021, 10:57 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-13-2021, 11:17 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by Cardfan1 - 04-13-2021, 11:50 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by The Outsider - 04-14-2021, 09:59 AM
RE: Down the Drain - by vector#1 - 04-14-2021, 10:25 AM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-14-2021, 12:40 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by Cardfan1 - 04-13-2021, 07:15 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-13-2021, 10:28 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by vector#1 - 04-14-2021, 08:54 AM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-14-2021, 01:17 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by vector#1 - 04-14-2021, 01:53 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-14-2021, 03:13 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by vector#1 - 04-14-2021, 03:46 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-14-2021, 04:09 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by vector#1 - 04-14-2021, 06:34 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-14-2021, 08:54 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by vector#1 - 04-15-2021, 09:43 AM
RE: Down the Drain - by Cardfan1 - 04-14-2021, 06:00 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-14-2021, 09:24 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by Cardfan1 - 04-14-2021, 10:10 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-15-2021, 01:48 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by Cardfan1 - 04-15-2021, 05:06 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-16-2021, 12:11 AM
RE: Down the Drain - by vector#1 - 04-15-2021, 03:36 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by Cardfan1 - 04-16-2021, 08:24 AM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-16-2021, 11:01 AM
RE: Down the Drain - by vector#1 - 04-16-2021, 11:10 AM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-16-2021, 11:13 AM
RE: Down the Drain - by Cardfan1 - 04-16-2021, 12:24 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-16-2021, 03:51 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by Cardfan1 - 04-16-2021, 04:03 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-16-2021, 05:11 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by Cardfan1 - 04-16-2021, 06:53 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-16-2021, 09:21 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by Cardfan1 - 04-16-2021, 09:46 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-16-2021, 10:27 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by Cardfan1 - 04-16-2021, 10:46 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-17-2021, 03:43 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by vector#1 - 04-17-2021, 05:49 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by Cardfan1 - 04-17-2021, 06:14 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-17-2021, 06:42 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by Cardfan1 - 04-18-2021, 09:15 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by vector#1 - 04-16-2021, 04:36 PM
RE: Down the Drain - by vector#1 - 04-16-2021, 09:24 AM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-16-2021, 11:12 AM
RE: Down the Drain - by TheRealThing - 04-16-2021, 11:57 AM
RE: Down the Drain - by vector#1 - 04-16-2021, 12:07 PM
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