[TidesHoss32]

the ignorance involved with my statement? Spoken like a true pacifist. Hell, why give them anything? I dont agree with anything you say. Number one, you are WRONG when you say they would make it in prison. Maybe your prison. There is NO WAY they would make it at Red Onion. I dealt with several suicides, and I would bet you a million bucks theyd hang themselves within three years at that place. I have dealt with punk kids just like this, that have committed crimes a hundred times worse than this, and they crack and end up under constant watch supervision. These kids are pathetic. Wanna talk about ignorance? Well, Mr. Tough Counselor, here's something for you to think about. While you see the inmates what? Twice a week, two or three a day? It doesnt matter how much "good staff supervision" you have, when your dealing with 88 segregation inmates, and you have four officers pulling showers, rec, feeding, etc, heres a news flash for you, if they want to hang themselves, they find a way to make the time. So dont get on here and act like you know what its like to be an officer. Ive seen a hundred counselors just like you, and your exactly like 99% of them. I can tell by reading your incredibly passive posts, that you "sympathze" with kids like these. Give them "guidance". Hell, I bet your willing to give them the "love" they need to "turn their lives around". So why even punish them? Im glad you arent dishing out the sentence. Would they even get anything? What would you do? Take away their Corvette and X-Box 360 for a day?

[QUOTE=TidesHoss32]you are right as far as inmates getting out while performing crimes worse than this, however, I have seen countless times, those inmates return to prison a very short time later. Im not saying these two kids should be put to death. However they need to serve a MINIMUM of 20 or 30 years. I truly wish they could get a year for every shot they fired. And Belfry, you just want these guys in prison because these are the weakest and at the bottom of the prison food chain, lol..its ok to admit it..give them the guidance they need (let them be somebody's wife), and the rest will take care of itself.[/QUOTE
I refused to comment on the last part of your statement based on the ignorance involved with it. I also disagree with one of your pervious statements. These guys would make it in prison and do everyday. I know that their life would be difficult. How many suicides did you hear about or witness during your 7 year career? Most of the time with good security staff the act of suicide doesn’t take place due to supervision.