[BelfryJustice]

the ignorance involved with my statement? Spoken like a true pacifist. Hell, why give them anything? I dont agree with anything you say. Number one, you are WRONG when you say they would make it in prison. Maybe your prison. There is NO WAY they would make it at Red Onion. I dealt with several suicides, and I would bet you a million bucks theyd hang themselves within three years at that place. I have dealt with punk kids just like this, that have committed crimes a hundred times worse than this, and they crack and end up under constant watch supervision. These kids are pathetic. Wanna talk about ignorance? Well, Mr. Tough Counselor, here's something for you to think about. While you see the inmates what? Twice a week, two or three a day? It doesnt matter how much "good staff supervision" you have, when your dealing with 88 segregation inmates, and you have four officers pulling showers, rec, feeding, etc, heres a news flash for you, if they want to hang themselves, they find a way to make the time. So dont get on here and act like you know what its like to be an officer. Ive seen a hundred counselors just like you, and your exactly like 99% of them. I can tell by reading your incredibly passive posts, that you "sympathze" with kids like these. Give them "guidance". Hell, I bet your willing to give them the "love" they need to "turn their lives around". So why even punish them? Im glad you arent dishing out the sentence. Would they even get anything? What would you do? Take away their Corvette and X-Box 360 for a day? [QUOTE=BelfryJustice]

For your information I was also an officer. 1st I said 1 to 5 years I guess you need to read that again since you are saying I said give them nothing. Plus pay the owner and work for 2 years to care for the other horses. 2nd Several suicides in 7 years are not a very big number when you look at the fact that the prison you worked at should hold 1500 inmates. 3rd Augusta Correctional Center was the Red Onion of Virginia prior to the creation of Red Onion. Most inmates are punks and many will make it to the end of their sentence. No one said that prison was easy. That is the reason for it. I was required to see a caseload of 100-150 inmates and averaged 1100+ contacts a year with a total of 20+ minutes for each pass. I never one time sympathized with these two. They need to be held accountable for the actions that they committed. If they were there for capital murder then I would support the barbaric actions that you have called for. These two boys are very sick individuals and do need psychological assessment and treatment. I bet that they don’t get the sentence that you have been talking about, because it is reserved for the murderers and rapist. Last I think you just need to go back and read what I said since you missed so much. I do think that you have made a great decision to get out of corrections. You do appear to be someone that couldn’t do the job without being judgmental. The judging part is done by the court. The Correctional setting is for protecting the public and making change for when they reintegrate back into society. I do support the death penalty for the cases that warrant it.