[Old School]

I told you where I found this info, the department of labor. All the info I posted came from that site.

here is the link I forgot to post.

http://www.bls.gov/oco/cg/cgs004.htm

I would take statistics from the department of labor before I would the "Western economic analysis center".

The only laugh here is your question, why did jobs drop from 1923 to 1963. Well in case you didn't know, there was a small thing that happened called the depression that started in the 20's. Everyone lost jobs, and the oil, gas, and coal industry took humongous blows. When world war 2 rolled around, we needed to really boost our production in the US, so coal mining jobs started to pick up again. The coal industry is a boom and bust industry also, so it's always rising and falling. I really don't feel like giving a history lesson, but if you need one just send me a PM.

I like you try to make it seem that I blame all the job losses on MTR, and I dont, I just think that MTR has a lot to do with the current decrease in jobs, and I provided stats to prove that. Now that our economy is really slipping, I'm sure more miners will lose jobs, and thats a shame. I feel dumber when I debate with you sometimes, you really have a very one track mind.

I find it very odd that you would take stats from the Government over other especially when in the past you said "I do not, and will never believe the majority of the information fiven from the Government" So what changed your mind? lol

Your little history lesson was so insightful, that I can hardly wait for your lesson on what caused the 66% decrease in mining jobs between 1943 to 1963. :graduate:

In your last post, you said, "make it seem that I blame all the job losses on MTR, and I don't". or at least that's what I took it to say. Check out some of your statements.
In post 13 you said that "the practice of MTR has taken away more jobs from mines than any environmentalist will do".
In post 17 you said, "coal mining jobs decreased by 57% (whcih was actually 43%) from 177,874 to 101,322, this was due to new and cheaper mining techniques, like MTR".
In post 18 you said, "IMO the recent trend in the decrese in coal mining jobs is due to MTR".
Again in post 18 you said, "since strip mining jobs (MTR) requires very few workers, and most operations hire less than 20 workers, I think that my theory of mining operations being to blame for the fall of jobs in very valid".
During this thread alone you've said on 4 different occasions that MTR was the cause of decreased jobs in the mining industry. Would it be to much trouble to give us a straight answer, in you opinion is MTR to blame or not?

And you wonder why I question some of your statements, you want people to think your knowledgeable about mining and the mining industry. In about every thread on mining you've brought up that you have a history in mining, that you have family and friends that work in the mines, that you have been around mines your whole life, yet you post things like "45% of mining operations employee 3 people, or "Contour mining is rarely used". If you had any knowledge about mining at all you would know that it takes more than 3 people to operate a mine, maybe you should ask your friends or family members how many people work with them, I guarantee it would be more than 3. lol IMO I don't have to make you look like a nut case, you seem to be doing a fine job of that yourself.

The economy may be slipping, but it's due to the coal industry, like I said earlier jobs in the mining industry have increased 15% over the past 5 years and coal companies are still begging for more workers. The housing market is mainly to blame for the downturn in the enconomy, to many people spent more on homes than they could afford and many lending companies gave loans to people who they knew could not afford these homes.