[Old School]

We are talking about retirement, not medical benefits. I have to pay my insurance, at the rate of about 350.00 a month after I retire, unless somehting changes between now and then. The men lied, or were stupid about their retirement, they were locked in if they had 5 years. Retirement lock in after 5 years doesn't include insurance according to federal law.

You may be talking about retirement, but I'm talking about health benefits after retirement.

What in the world are you talking about? I know and these men know that they are/were vested after 5 years in their employer/employee retirement account, but as I said I'm talking about health insurance. When they sign on with the union they had wto work so many years and they would be covered for life.

From UMWA's website:

"The Coal Act established the CBF and 92 BP to provide health care benefits coverage to qualified retired union miners, their dependents, and their surviving spouses. The 93BP was created outside the context of the Coal Act through collective bargaining between the United Mine Workers of America (UMWA) and the Bituminous Coal Operators’ Association (BCOA). Unlike the CBF and the 92BP, which have a statutory basis, the existence of the 93BP will continue to be determined by the outcome of the collective bargaining process."

BTW.....you don't know these men, and by calling them liars and stupid just show everyone your immaturity.