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09-23-2009, 01:40 AM
Old School Wrote:Anti wind lol..... come on coach, you and I have had serveral discussions on energy over the past couple of years, and in all of those discussions how many times have I said, I was against wind mills.....a big fat ZERO. I have over 2,000 post on this site, and I challenge you to find one, just one where I said I was against wind mills. How may times have I said that I'm for all types of energy that will help us become engery independent, including wind, solar, nuclear, hydro, and coal?......I'd say about twenty or so.
As I said in a previous post I ran across this article by accident, and I never realized how many birds are killed by these wind mills annually, maybe you and others did, but I did not. Exxon Mobil killed 85 birds that came into contact with their crude oil and had to pay $600,000 dollars in fines. PacifiCorp paid 1.4 million in fines for killing 232 eagles that landed on poorly designed power lines over a 2 years period. These windmills are known to kill 275,000 (and could go up to 3 million) birds that fly into the blades or bats that can suffer internal hemorrhaging by flying to close to the towers annually without being fined one cent. Am I missing something here, if Exxon and PacifiCorps are punished for killing birds then shouldn't everyone be punished for the same offense.
BTW, If those bats happen to be the cute Indiana Bat everyone loves so much, then shouldn't the windmill project be scrapped, or at least moved to another site.
You may have never said anything against "green sources" but this post does have an anti-green energy message.
Id say that the laws would be up to each state to enforce, and im sure if a protected species was killed, the company would be fined, or asked to scrap the project, just like the one you metioned in WV.
And I like how you are up in arms about this apparent double standard, im sure that oil companies, or any big company for that matter have never been given unfair tax breaks, or had a blind eye turned to some dirty business, or anything of that sort to help their efforts. Just recently president bush changed the Endangered species act, to allow companies to assess their own damages to the environment, and allowed them to bypass around laws. He also changed some wording in the clean water act, which allowed coal companies to do things that should where previously illegal. This was an unfair advantage, and gave preference to fossil fuels for energy, but you didnt mention anything about that.
Double Standards appear everywhere, but I dont really think this applies here, theyre are too many wacko peta members to let a large number of animal killings go unnoticed.
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Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Old School - 09-19-2009, 07:13 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by TheRealVille - 09-19-2009, 07:52 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Stardust - 09-19-2009, 08:08 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Old School - 09-19-2009, 08:44 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by TheRealVille - 09-19-2009, 08:58 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Old School - 09-19-2009, 09:12 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by vundy33 - 09-19-2009, 09:14 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Old School - 09-19-2009, 09:19 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Mr.Kimball - 09-19-2009, 10:18 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by CatDawg - 09-19-2009, 10:53 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by vundy33 - 09-19-2009, 11:41 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by CatDawg - 09-19-2009, 11:42 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Coach_Owens87 - 09-22-2009, 12:43 AM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Mr.Kimball - 09-22-2009, 09:05 AM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by launchpad4 - 09-22-2009, 09:13 AM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Mr.Kimball - 09-22-2009, 09:20 AM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by ComfortEagle - 09-22-2009, 12:43 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by PC_You_Know - 09-22-2009, 01:41 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by jetpilot - 09-22-2009, 02:08 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by thecavemaster - 09-22-2009, 03:33 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Coach_Owens87 - 09-22-2009, 03:37 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Coach_Owens87 - 09-22-2009, 03:53 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Mr.Kimball - 09-22-2009, 04:17 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by TidesHoss32 - 09-22-2009, 05:06 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by CatDawg - 09-22-2009, 05:33 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Old School - 09-22-2009, 08:14 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Old School - 09-22-2009, 08:19 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Panther Thunder - 09-22-2009, 09:50 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Coach_Owens87 - 09-23-2009, 01:40 AM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Beetle01 - 09-23-2009, 02:36 AM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Mr.Kimball - 09-23-2009, 08:31 AM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Coach_Owens87 - 09-23-2009, 01:01 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Mr.Kimball - 09-23-2009, 01:24 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Old School - 09-23-2009, 08:25 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Coach_Owens87 - 09-23-2009, 08:45 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by vundy33 - 09-24-2009, 12:13 AM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by nky - 09-24-2009, 04:13 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by nky - 09-24-2009, 08:21 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by OrangenowBlue - 09-25-2009, 08:20 AM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Cardsftw2010 - 09-25-2009, 12:12 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by nky - 09-25-2009, 02:33 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by Old School - 09-25-2009, 09:27 PM
Windmills Are Killing Our Birds - by nky - 09-26-2009, 07:51 PM
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