[Wildcatk23]

He also writes that its the rights given by God.. in the very document you are talking about. Wildcatk23, I agree with you that this isn't a 'christian' nation. But your arguements need A LOT of work before they can be effective. As of now, you aren't changing any minds... nor will you. And if thats your goal... I suggest you study the facts, the quotes, and the people in order to build a better understanding of what you're talking about.

Knowing what you believe is one thing... Knowing why, and why not, is a completely different thing.

Madison makes it clear that this government is a government only adaequet for a Christian people.. Why is that? Jefferson mentions "god" a few times in his declaration of independence. Why is that? These are the questions you need to answer before you can try to convince others why you may be right.

I'm not trying to change anyones mind. This isn't a religious discussion, I'm just making it clear that this country wasn't found on Christian morals.


Madison's most famous statement on behalf of religious liberty was his Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments, which he wrote to oppose a bill that would have authorized tax support for Christian ministers in the state of Virginia.
Other sources for Madison's beliefs are his letter to Jasper Adams, where he argues on behalf of letting religion survive on its own merits, and a 1792 article in which he suggests that there is no specific religious sanction for American government.

No matter how hard conservative apologists for the Christian Right try, they cannot locate endorsements of religion, God, theism, or Christianity in the Constitution. At no point does the Constitution exhibit anything less than a fully secular, godless character. The American Constitution was a novel experiment in the creation of a secular government on the basis of popular sovereignty and democratic principles.