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10/25/13 Johnson Central @ ASHLAND
eagles2011 Wrote:Pikeville and pburg had us on speed dial . But now they run and hide . But back to the game it's hard to judge Ashland the last time I thought we would blow them out they beat us I think it was Jj senior year . They always play a good game againts us ,
Kinda my thinking. I can only remember 1 blowout in this series. And that was I believe 2008. These coaches know each other too well to let a running clock be put on them.
Quick serious question folks... What is the different between a Tomcat compare to a Bobcat?
armyfootball#1 Wrote:Ok I'm going to just ask a question that a lot of people in eastern ky would like to know. Without upsetting everyone, and saying I am looking for excuses and whining etc. I don't have a favorite team in this. With that being said, and looking at it open minded, how many kids that are in grade 7-12 have JC were actually held back in grade or middle school. And the question is, if it is a high number, wouldn't you all agree that it can really be a huge advantage in regards to age. Such as a 7th grader that gets an extra year at 7th, 8th etc. Then when they are in high school, the team actually gets a kid or several (as what has been said), that are what would have been in college, still playing high school football. Again just asking. I actually don't see a problem, but only if the kid would have been a 13yr. old freshman. Which is the case why some hold their kids back. Please only educated facts need reply on this. Not something like "whining, crying" just how many from 7-12th that have been held back during their school yrs. Thanks
Thought I would run this again to see if anyone with "facts" would respond.
Ok I'm going to just ask a question that a lot of people in eastern ky would like to know. Without upsetting everyone, and saying I am looking for excuses and whining etc. I don't have a favorite team in this. With that being said, and looking at it open minded, how many kids that are in grade 7-12 have JC were actually held back in grade or middle school. And the question is, if it is a high number, wouldn't you all agree that it can really be a huge advantage in regards to age. Such as a 7th grader that gets an extra year at 7th, 8th etc. Then when they are in high school, the team actually gets a kid or several (as what has been said), that are what would have been in college, still playing high school football. Again just asking. I actually don't see a problem, but only if the kid would have been a 13yr. old freshman. Which is the case why some hold their kids back. Please only educated facts need reply on this. Not something like "whining, crying" just how many from 7-12th that have been held back during their school yrs. Thanks
Hoot Gibson Wrote:That is news to me. The name Shorty Jamerson rang a bell and while I was researching his career, I ran across an article from 1957 that said he lost the first 32 games of his coaching career at Morehead State and Wheelwright (he was Wheelwright's first football coach) before finally getting a win as Glasgow's coach against Bowling Green. I guess Wheelwright talked him into returning soon afterwards. I had always assumed that he was from Wheelwright, but he actually played at Henderson before attending UK.


I knew he coached at Morehead (didn't know his record) and was Wheelwright's first coach but I didn't know about him coaching Glasgow. Back in the old Wheelwright days there were some awesome teams around including Paintsville, Hazard, Belfry and others. Wheelwright being a smaller school and really a basketball power they weren't super successful in football, but they played and had some very good individual players. Prestonsburg and Wheelwright played every year for the Floyd County Championship and I don't ever remember Wheelwright beating Prestonsburg. Although there were up to 10 high schools in Floyd County at one time (including an African American high school) only Wheelwright and Prestonsburg played football until Allen Central was formed from Martin, Maytown, Wayland and Garrett. I'm pretty sure that Allen Central started football before Betsy Layne and South Floyd.

I think Shorty is the father of Dewey Jamerson who has been an assistant football coach at Prestonsburg and the grandfather of Nick who played at Prestonsburg and is part of the band Sundy Best. I think I'm correct here.
Harrison County will be the 4th seed in district 7 as they have lost all of their district games.

So that means that the winner of this game will host Harrison County in the first round of the playoffs.

The loser will host the loser of the Holmes/Cov. Cath. game this Friday night at their place.
tomcatfan722000 Wrote:Kinda my thinking. I can only remember 1 blowout in this series. And that was I believe 2008. These coaches know each other too well to let a running clock be put on them.

Isn't this Tony Love's first year at the helm at Ashland?
4A District 8 standings as of 10-21-13.

* Johnson Central (3-0)
* Ashland (3-0)
3rd - Rowan County (2-2)
** Greenup County (0-3)
** Boyd County (0-3)

So this week's games will determine the 1st & 2nd place spots as well as the 4th place spot.
4A District 7 standings as of 10-21-13.

1st - Highlands (3-0)
** Cov. Cath. (1-1)
** Holmes (1-1)
4th - Harrison County (0-3)

Cov. Cath. and Holmes play each other this week and that game will determine the 2nd & 3rd place spots.
LClion4life Wrote:Isn't this Tony Love's first year at the helm at Ashland?

Yes it is
Ok, I'm going to open this up for discussion. How many kids from JC that are in grades 7-12 have actually been held back during their school yrs. Let me say this before anyone bashes me. I do not have a favorite team even in the mix. Just curious as to what everyone in eastern ky has been saying about JC. So I am not making excuses or "whining, crying" about losing. I actually don't see a problem with it, but only if the kid is going to be 13 as a freshman. So with that being said, what are the facts. If it is a high number I am sure you all would agree that a kid that would have been in college got extra yrs. in middle or grade school. Especially if you have several. Can't you at least see what people would think about being a huge advantage. I realize the KHSAA says as long as they do not turn 19 prior their senior year, they are legal. But my question is if you have several, it could be a huge advantage for the team. Facts and numbers please. Thanks and good luck with a great season.
Ok, I'm going to open this up for discussion. How many kids from JC that are in grades 7-12 have actually been held back during their school yrs. Let me say this before anyone bashes me. I do not have a favorite team even in the mix. Just curious as to what everyone in eastern ky has been saying about JC. So I am not making excuses or "whining, crying" about losing. I actually don't see a problem with it, but only if the kid is going to be 13 as a freshman. So with that being said, what are the facts. If it is a high number I am sure you all would agree that a kid that would have been in college got extra yrs. in middle or grade school. Especially if you have several. Can't you at least see what people would think about being a huge advantage. I realize the KHSAA says as long as they do not turn 19 prior their senior year, they are legal. But my question is if you have several, it could be a huge advantage for the team. Facts and numbers please. Thanks and good luck with a great season.
Sorry if this is duplicated. New at this, and I guess the moderator has to review 5 times prior to posting. Again sorry for duplications.
Ashland at Putnam will pull the HUGE upset!!! We are going to pull out a trick play of our own and win 38 37!!!!
Eagles - however many they want
Putty Tats - however many JC wants
T-CATS Wrote:Ashland at Putnam will pull the HUGE upset!!! We are going to pull out a trick play of our own and win 38 37!!!!

I would like to see them pull off an upset. Heard enough crazy talk about running score by beginning of second half.
Really don't think JC can match with Highlands (should they make it that far). JC is a very good wishbone team, however they are not diverse enough to beat the likes of Highlands.
If you don't pass the ball very much usually means you can't defend the pass. Simply because you don't see it that much in day to day practices. I'll bet they can stop the wishbone though. LOL Don't see Highlands running the bone though. LOL
Don't underestimate the Tomcats in Putnam. They may surprise you all and make it closer than you think.
WideRight05 Wrote:...The question, who are two teams that will never beat Highlands?

In no particular order:

Catlettsburg Wildcats
McKell Bulldogs
T-CATS Wrote:Ashland at Putnam will pull the HUGE upset!!! We are going to pull out a trick play of our own and win 38 37!!!!

:what:
T-CATS Wrote:Ashland at Putnam will pull the HUGE upset!!! We are going to pull out a trick play of our own and win 38 37!!!!

Which one.. Snake in the Grass??
T-CATS Wrote:Ashland at Putnam will pull the HUGE upset!!! We are going to pull out a trick play of our own and win 38 37!!!!

Dude, I don't know whether you're a player or a fan, but that's not something you post on a website as an underdog going against JC considering their players and maybe a coach or two read it. That would be like Highlands posting that against Trinity or somebody. I'm sure JC fans would know better than to post that against Highlands (they'll sure need a few trick plays to win that one LOL).
WideRight05 Wrote:Dude, I don't know whether you're a player or a fan, but that's not something you post on a website as an underdog going against JC considering their players and maybe a coach or two read it. That would be like Highlands posting that against Trinity or somebody. I'm sure JC fans would know better than to post that against Highlands (they'll sure need a few trick plays to win that one LOL).

Why would JC need trick plays to beat highlands.. They have had just as much success as any other team in 4A against highlands. This weeks game with Elder will shed more light on JC chance or lack thereof against highlands.
Jc rolls on
Kayaker Wrote:Why would JC need trick plays to beat highlands.. They have had just as much success as any other team in 4A against highlands. This weeks game with Elder will shed more light on JC chance or lack thereof against highlands.

Yeah, that's right - look at all the times JC has beat Highlands. Confusednicker:

4-0...

5-0 after the regional final.
WideRight05 Wrote:Dude, I don't know whether you're a player or a fan, but that's not something you post on a website as an underdog going against JC considering their players and maybe a coach or two read it. That would be like Highlands posting that against Trinity or somebody. I'm sure JC fans would know better than to post that against Highlands (they'll sure need a few trick plays to win that one LOL).

:lame:
Pulp Fiction Wrote::lame:

You got anything to post that's actual fact? JC has never, and will never beat Highlands. Matney is way too one-dimensional. Period.
WideRight05 Wrote:You got anything to post that's actual fact? JC has never, and will never beat Highlands. Matney is way too one-dimensional. Period.

:biglmao:

Never is a long time WR05.... it will happen. Highlands is one of the best teams year in and year out in the nation. And when we do beat the bluebirds, it won't be on "bad call" or a "trick play". We'll do what we do, run the ball... run the ball and run the ball. Just like Royce Gracie used to do in the early UFC contests.... at the time, he was one of the best BJJ practitioners in the world and he won his matches with what he did best... submissions. He didn't have to be "multi-dimensional" to make history. He was "one-dimensional" and now in the UFC hall of fame and considered one of the best mma fighters in history.


I can't help we in Johnsonville breed Hugh offensive linemen, All-State running backs, Dual-Threat qb's and nationally ranked Place Kickers.

Our coaching staff takes what they are given and makes them better. You can't fit a round hole in a square peg there buddy. Just because we don't have the type of players year in and year out to set state passing records doesn't mean we can't play a little pitch and catch every now and then......

But you keep thinking we're one-dimensional.
Pulp Fiction Wrote::biglmao:

Never is a long time WR05.... it will happen. Highlands is one of the best teams year in and year out in the nation. And when we do beat the bluebirds, it won't be on "bad call" or a "trick play". We'll do what we do, run the ball... run the ball and run the ball. Just like Royce Gracie used to do in the early UFC contests.... at the time, he was one of the best BJJ practitioners in the world and he won his matches with what he did best... submissions. He didn't have to be "multi-dimensional" to make history. He was "one-dimensional" and now in the UFC hall of fame and considered one of the best mma fighters in history.


I can't help we in Johnsonville breed Hugh offensive linemen, All-State running backs, Dual-Threat qb's and nationally ranked Place Kickers.

Our coaching staff takes what they are given and makes them better. You can't fit a round hole in a square peg there buddy. Just because we don't have the type of players year in and year out to set state passing records doesn't mean we can't play a little pitch and catch every now and then......

But you keep thinking we're one-dimensional.

It hasn't worked on Highlands yet. Which time did it work? The time Highlands won 35-21 in 2008 against your best team ever after having the game well in hand? The time Highlands won 42-21? Or the time Highlands won 67-20?
WideRight05 Wrote:It hasn't worked on Highlands yet. Which time did it work? The time Highlands won 35-21 in 2008 against your best team ever after having the game well in hand? The time Highlands won 42-21? Or the time Highlands won 67-20?

The score is correct, but well in hand I don't know about. It was 28-21 with JC driving inside the Highlands 40 with a few minutes to go when there was a fumbled exchanged returned for the last Highlands TD.
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