[Tica]

Coach Stoops - please don't have us coming back here in a year or two saying I told you so about Jackson like we did with UK/Joker and Antonio Andrews. Strike while the iron is hot.

[mysonis55]

By the way, for those of you who do not know the kid as well as we do. Jonathan is totally dedicated to God and football. Football is his favorite sport. He also plays basketball. He wanted to give up the basketball, I think after his freshman year, so he could concentrate on working out and getting ready for basketball. His mother is a very strict christian woman. She would not allow him to quit basketball because she did not want him to have free time on his hands. She has been around long enough to know what happens to kids that have too much time on their hands and was not about to allow that to happen to her son. Also this kid works hard in school, hits the weights harder than anyone else in the the school, works a job at a health supplement business and on top of that after a Fri night game, you can find him stoking the fire at the BBQ place very early on Sat morning with his dad.

[mysonis55]

Sorry, I meant getting ready for football. Sometimes I need to proof read.

[mysonis55]

By the way, this Mr Football candidate is already playing the post in Basketball this year and helped the Cards last night to upset the high flying Paducah Tilghman Tornado. I think once our football guys get into basketball shape, we are going to surprise a bunch of people this year. I mean a bunch of people.

[Smashmouth 47]

All time leading Rusher and tackler at Mayfield. That says it all.

In my opinion, he was the best player up there this week.

The next one? Quick. But, Quick didn't play defense.

If we want to give out a Mr. Athlete Award, give it to quick. If we want to actually give out a Mr. Football Award, give it to Jackson.

I agree! Jackson is a true football player. I saw him get injured last year and while the trainer was working on him he keep looking over her at the field like he was going to miss something. This kid loves the game. Even during a running clock when the youngsters were in the game he was watching the game acting like it was punishing him not being in there. He is what a Mr. Football should be.

[mysonis55]

WE ARE NOT TRINITY OR ST X therefore, there is no way Jonathan can be Mr Football.

[Crossbones]

Jackson is a great ballplayer, no doubt. But, he is not the best in the state. You all have every right to ring the bell for his nomination. But the state is full of great players with great stats this year. I don't think the school has that much issue in the equation. Shoot, Tim Couch won it when he went to Leslie County, a school that gets far less attention than Mayfield. Mayfield has become a powerhouse and household name in 1A ball in Kentucky. On a side note...Tim Couch has a smokin hot wife.:biggrin:

[mysonis55]

Sooo, what you are saying, is if Jonathan gets a smokin hot girlfriend he has a shot. I really believe Mr Football should stand for who contributes the most to Ky Football. Watch the games, see what the kid does and then tell me he isn't. Trust me, I have watched many, many, videos of other players and teams across the state (including Trinity) and have yet to see a kid that does as much as well as Jonathan Jackson. As far as competition goes, ask Warren Central, Graves County, Caldwell County, Murray, Beechwood, KCD, Fairview, Marshall County, Madisonville N-H and others what they think of Mr Jackson.

[The_Rock]

If Johnathon Jackson played for Trinity, he would be one of Trinitys best players. Definatly playing LB. Him and Trinity's DE together would be crazy. Jackson should win Mr. Football. Id say James Quick is the favorite though.

[Crossbones]

Sooo, what you are saying, is if Jonathan gets a smokin hot girlfriend he has a shot. I really believe Mr Football should stand for who contributes the most to Ky Football. Watch the games, see what the kid does and then tell me he isn't. Trust me, I have watched many, many, videos of other players and teams across the state (including Trinity) and have yet to see a kid that does as much as well as Jonathan Jackson. As far as competition goes, ask Warren Central, Graves County, Caldwell County, Murray, Beechwood, KCD, Fairview, Marshall County, Madisonville N-H and others what they think of Mr Jackson.

I did say, "on a side note".
Big difference between the teams Mayfield played and the teams Trinity played..I don't think Jackson's stats would be very high against these teams
Aug 17, 12 Brentwood Academy, TN home 52 - 23 (W)
Aug 24, 12 Montgomery Bell, TN away 27 - 23 (W)
Sep 7, 12 Cincinnati Elder, OH home 45 - 21 (W)
Sep 14, 12 Cincinnati St. Xavier, OH home 14 - 13 (W)
Sep 21, 12 Indianapolis Cathedral, IN away 24 - 16 (W)
Sep 28, 12 St. Xavier 34 - 7 (W)
Oct 5, 12 DuPont Manual away 55 - 27 (W)
Oct 12, 12 Male home 38 - 7 (W)
Oct 27, 12 Archbishop Moeller, OH away 42 - 45 (L)
Nov 2, 12 George Rogers Clark home 56 - 7 (W)
Nov 9, 12 Madison Central home 62 - 8 (W)
Nov 16, 12 St. Xavier at Papa Johns Cardinal Stadium 15 - 14 (W)
Nov 23, 12 Scott County home 21 - 14 (W)
Dec 1, 12 Pleasure Ridge Park at Feix Field, Houchens Stadium, WKU 61 - 7 (W)

[Crossbones]

Again, I'm not knocking the kid. He is a great football player. I've watched him play twice. It it not personal toward him. So don't take it that way.

[rednblackattack]

Again, I'm not knocking the kid. He is a great football player. I've watched him play twice. It it not personal toward him. So don't take it that way.

Pure talent pure ability at the WR position Quick is the best in the state. What our point is that Jackson contributes at the top level on both sides of the ball. Is also in on every step of special teams. What we are saying is that the kid effects every relevant play. So we are just saying that Mr Football should be about the best overall football player. To me that is Jackson.

[mysonis55]

Crossbones, no offense meant but your rational makes absolutely no sense. Yes they played a tougher schedule. They can do that and compete because of numbers. They have a starting offense, a starting defense, a starting kickoff team and a starting kickoff return team. The kids never play more than one position on a team like that. They have probably 7-8 times as many kids to choose from. They have subs that come off of the bench and fill in that would start on most teams. They have a college calibre kid at every position blocking for them, throwing to them and so forth. We on the other hand have 1 or 2 kids every year that have a chance at college. That does not mean that the one kid we have can not be a better player than the best one they have. That is the way most people that know nothing about football outside of Louisville think about this, but it is not true. Check out some people like Brian Erlacker, the qb from Lone Oak that now plays for Troy and others and tell me these people are not deserving of those type of accomplishments because they went to smaller schools and didn't play the same level of competition in high school. The point is, Mr Football is about the best football player, not the best football player on the best team.

[Crossbones]

Crossbones, no offense meant but your rational makes absolutely no sense. Yes they played a tougher schedule. They can do that and compete because of numbers. They have a starting offense, a starting defense, a starting kickoff team and a starting kickoff return team. The kids never play more than one position on a team like that. They have probably 7-8 times as many kids to choose from. They have subs that come off of the bench and fill in that would start on most teams. They have a college calibre kid at every position blocking for them, throwing to them and so forth. We on the other hand have 1 or 2 kids every year that have a chance at college. That does not mean that the one kid we have can not be a better player than the best one they have. That is the way most people that know nothing about football outside of Louisville think about this, but it is not true. Check out some people like Brian Erlacker, the qb from Lone Oak that now plays for Troy and others and tell me these people are not deserving of those type of accomplishments because they went to smaller schools and didn't play the same level of competition in high school. The point is, Mr Football is about the best football player, not the best football player on the best team.

I thought I made perfect since. If Jackson played those teams of those calibers he would not have the numbers he does. Plain an simple. He is simply the best player on Mayfields team, not the best player in the state. You all are looking through red tinted glasses. I could say Sani Warren for Belfry should be in the running for all that he does for Belfry, but he is not the best player in the state. I try to be as honest about it as possible an have seen the players mentioned. You all just cant get away from being homers. As far as small school players making it, I even mentioned Tim Couch, he was not on best team in state, but was best player. Have you all even seen Quick and Timmons play? I doubt it.

[Killer in the Sun]

Jackson is the best overall football player in the state. He does it both ways, plays special teams, all at a high level. When Jackson was in the 8th grade and went to the Notre Dame summer camp, guess who tried to make a play on him....Trinity.

[Crossbones]

Jackson is the best overall football player in the state. He does it both ways, plays special teams, all at a high level. When Jackson was in the 8th grade and went to the Notre Dame summer camp, guess who tried to make a play on him....Trinity.

You from Mayfield too ain't ya? The young man is a great ballplayer.

[Killer in the Sun]

You from Mayfield too ain't ya? The young man is a great ballplayer.

Does it matter? I know Timmons, Quick and others are all good and great players but none of those players can play both sides of the ball as well as Jackson. If you were putting together a highschool team wouldn't you rather have a player that can play at a high level on both sides of the ball? Maybe this allstar game this weekend will open a few eyes. I stand by my statement....Jackson is the best overall highschool player in the state of Kentucky.

[mysonis55]

Yes I have seen them play. They are good players. I have coached ball for several years. I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt, I would not take both of them for one Jonathan Jackson. That is my opinion and the opinion of alot of people that have seen the kid play. Now, I guess as one of my buddies has told me about things in the past, I guess we can agree to disagree on this subject.

[Crossbones]

Yes I have seen them play. They are good players. I have coached ball for several years. I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt, I would not take both of them for one Jonathan Jackson. That is my opinion and the opinion of alot of people that have seen the kid play. Now, I guess as one of my buddies has told me about things in the past, I guess we can agree to disagree on this subject.

So, you are one of the coaches on the team pulling for your player to get Mr. Football? That's cool. As for the bolded part. Most if not all of the people pulling for him is a Mayfield fan. I have seen him play and my opinion is he is a great player, just not the greatest in the state. I can agree that we will disagree.:Thumbs:

[mysonis55]

I didn't say I was a Mayfield coach, nice try at tainting the statement. I have been out of coaching football for over 4 years now. I am very hopeful that the play of Jackson this weekend will show what he is capable of. What concerns me though, is the fact that he is only playing one way in the game. He elected to play defense. I think it will be hard to make that kind of statement on defense only. There will be some sore kids from the Louisville area afterwards that will sing his praises though.

[64SUR]

I thought I made perfect since. If Jackson played those teams of those calibers he would not have the numbers he does. Plain an simple. He is simply the best player on Mayfields team, not the best player in the state. You all are looking through red tinted glasses. I could say Sani Warren for Belfry should be in the running for all that he does for Belfry, but he is not the best player in the state. I try to be as honest about it as possible an have seen the players mentioned. You all just cant get away from being homers. As far as small school players making it, I even mentioned Tim Couch, he was not on best team in state, but was best player. Have you all even seen Quick and Timmons play? I doubt it.

:howdy:crossbones i live in leslie county for 40yrs.yes tim couch was the best player in kentucky.so why wouldn't you think jonathan jackson is not i believe if he was at trinity he would be mr.football not taken anything away from timmons and quick they are great player.overall offense and defense jacksons is the best and should be mr.football moke:

[MayfieldCardinal]

After Scott Daniel of Scott was named 6A player of the year it appears there is momentum growing for Jackson in the Mr. Football race

[rednblackattack]

After Scott Daniel of Scott was named 6A player of the year it appears there is momentum growing for Jackson in the Mr. Football race

The biggest road block for Jonathan is that this reward is given by the associated press the same moron writers who left JJ off both 1st and 2nd team all state last year. He was one of the top vote getters for 1st team by the coaches.

[toussaints]

This is what's going on here

We all agree that Jonathon Jackson is a great football player

Mayfield fans and backers believe Jackson is the best football player in the state

Central Kentuckians believe Ryan Timmons is the best football player in the state

Everyone else believes James Quick is the best football player in the state

I believe Jason Hatcher is the best football player in the state, and has the best chance at playing on Sundays.

All that being said, most of the AP voters are in Louisville, so Quick will most likely win, and he will be deserving of it. Quick does play some defense when he's healthy and special teams at a program that would be stupid not 2 platooning. He's also a sub 11 sec. 100m sprinter, and a really good basketball player, with a great GPA and high ACT score, that says a lot about the kid.

[rednblackattack]

This is what's going on here

We all agree that Jonathon Jackson is a great football player

Mayfield fans and backers believe Jackson is the best football player in the state

Central Kentuckians believe Ryan Timmons is the best football player in the state

Everyone else believes James Quick is the best football player in the state

I believe Jason Hatcher is the best football player in the state, and has the best chance at playing on Sundays.

All that being said, most of the AP voters are in Louisville, so Quick will most likely win, and he will be deserving of it. Quick does play some defense when he's healthy and special teams at a program that would be stupid not 2 platooning. He's also a sub 11 sec. 100m sprinter, and a really good basketball player, with a great GPA and high ACT score, that says a lot about the kid.

This is one of the best classes the state has ever had. That says alot. I am not saying Jackson is better than Quick or Timmons or even Hatcher. I just dont think anybody else contributes to as many relevant plays in a game as Jackson. Just playing both sides and special teams is not enough. When he is out there on defense he is the Best on the field when he is on offense he is the best player on the field when he is sp teams he is the best on the field. His blocking has sprung tons of big pass plays especially on screens. He does not let up or take plays off. Truth be told i think JJ would be a great blocking occationally run full back. Kinda like the guy from UK a fews years back earning a check in the league as a blocking fb who can keep the d honest being able to catch the ball and get tough yards. Dont get me wrong i think he can play back lb or ss at the next level i really think with his toughness he could earn a league check as a fb

[toussaints]

^ Im not saying Jackson doesn't have a chance, I'm saying Hatcher probably has the best chance. Going to USC, he's very fast and athletic for his size.

Also a quick side note, Trinity players and coaches can't win KFCA Awards because they're not members of the Kentucky Football Coaches Association. Something to do with their ego

[FBALL]

I agree with toussaints. Hatcher

[mysonis55]

Well the fact that he is going to be one of the bums at USC would be the best reason to not vote him in. I think Sunday's game will help JJ. I just wish he was playing offense, so he could catch everyone's eye. They all want to see the big offensive plays.

[highschoolfan]

Pure talent pure ability at the WR position Quick is the best in the state. What our point is that Jackson contributes at the top level on both sides of the ball. Is also in on every step of special teams. What we are saying is that the kid effects every relevant play. So we are just saying that Mr Football should be about the best overall football player. To me that is Jackson.

I am in total agreement with you, Jackson is a all-round great football player. To be honest I think Jackson and The Beast from the EAST Canady from KNOX are the Best all-purpose players in the State. Canady plays RB--WR--SS--OLB--Punter--and returns kick-offs. When you play both sides of the ball and compete at a high level that teams worry about you on both sides of the ball. Then you should be mentioned as a MR. Football canidate.:Clap:

CANADY and JACKSON do all of this.irateSho

[Killer in the Sun]

Well the fact that he is going to be one of the bums at USC would be the best reason to not vote him in. I think Sunday's game will help JJ. I just wish he was playing offense, so he could catch everyone's eye. They all want to see the big offensive plays.

defense is where he needs to be