[Superman20]

I clearly said fellas. not one person.

Besides jason and jimmy, who else is involved over the offense?

[Pupaw]

I don't place the sole blame on Kinner, I don't exactly agree with his coaching schemes over the past few years, but I will say that the Paintsville school system as a whole just has an extremely low amount of athletes in it. Honestly, and this may sound harsh, but right now this is as little of athletic talent that I have seen in this school the past 15 years. If you sit down and go position by position, how many of the people that PHS is playing would honestly start at other Class A schools that have had success recently? I would seriously say that only 1 or 2 players would see significant time if they were at any other place than Paintsville. I'm not picking on them or anything like that, but this is just my opinion. I've seen every football team Paintsville has put on the field since probably 1996 and I feel like I'm a fairly good judge of talent when it comes to sports, and the way I see it we just don't have those tough hard-nosed type of football players that are required to be successful. I hate to see this program fall to the level that they are at now, and I really hope that things turn around for them.

[Superman20]

I think this sophomore class has potential to be pretty good. I see very,very good potential in billy phelps oldest son that's playing for the middle school. With solid coaching things can turn around when that sophomore class are upperclassmen I believe. I liked that fannin kid as a qb as well. Has a strong arm on him. The talent that is in the program now doesn't compare to the late 90's and during the 00 and 01 seasons. Best recent team that really disappointed me was that team with that doderer boy and dyllon brown. If dustin caldwell would have been their qb they could have definitely been a very solid team. It doesnt help when the most athletic kids would rather play soccer as well. In my years at phs the best athletes played more than one sport. Anyways, I see your point pupaw

[Unregistered]

Lack of talent? That seems to be the excuse for every coach in the program. Raw talent and even no talent has to be shown fundamentals, no matter what sport. You cant walk before you crawl.

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

I don't place the sole blame on Kinner, I don't exactly agree with his coaching schemes over the past few years, but I will say that the Paintsville school system as a whole just has an extremely low amount of athletes in it. Honestly, and this may sound harsh, but right now this is as little of athletic talent that I have seen in this school the past 15 years. If you sit down and go position by position, how many of the people that PHS is playing would honestly start at other Class A schools that have had success recently? I would seriously say that only 1 or 2 players would see significant time if they were at any other place than Paintsville. I'm not picking on them or anything like that, but this is just my opinion. I've seen every football team Paintsville has put on the field since probably 1996 and I feel like I'm a fairly good judge of talent when it comes to sports, and the way I see it we just don't have those tough hard-nosed type of football players that are required to be successful. I hate to see this program fall to the level that they are at now, and I really hope that things turn around for them.

One Linebacker and one Running back would be all that could start at any other program. There is alot of talent coming up and times will get better but it will take at least one more year.

[Hillbilly F-ball]

One Linebacker and one Running back would be all that could start at any other program. There is alot of talent coming up and times will get better but it will take at least one more year.


What are you talking about I know 2 linemen that show a lot more then your Linebacker and running back do week in and out!!!!!! If they don't win this week, Tigers will hit rock bottom!!!!!! All the Tigers have to do is run the behind these 2 linemen and they will win. If you can recall the 1st time the Tigers had the ball againts Maff. Co., 70 yards for a touchdow and every play was ran off the right side of the line!!!!Plus your Linebacker didn't play half the game on D, so who put the stop to Maff. off.??? The 2 linemen on that team are the only 2 that could start for any team in the area and shine!!! I'm sure Mr. Jude would love to run behind these 2 guys!!! The Off. and Def. Lines are the strong point for the Tigers this year, without the 4 guys on the line P-ville couldn't score or stop anyone!!!

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

I will admit I forgot Spriggs lol.

[honestjchsfan]

Yes I saw the game after that first drive PHS had the Hornets on the ropes. For some reason PHS stated getting fancy. If they would junk the Spread stuff and run the dive and belly and a few QB keepers they would move the ball. If the hold on to the ball they win this game big.

[Superman20]

This staff has tried to use the spread offense a lot over the years but it seems like this year they aren't using it as much. The spread offense hurt them more than helped in the past and the present. The offensive coordinator for paintsville is a good guy and I hope The offense improves. Hard to win a game with so many turnovers though. Hope they keep the turnovers down this week.

[HornetPride]

they did not get to fancy the first half i saw the game as well they killed magoffin with the option i mean layed it to them they never got fancy till the second half after magoffin put them on the ropes they ran the option until josh patton busted it up and cause a fumble resulting in caleb halls td... after that they never ran the option again

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

they did not get to fancy the first half i saw the game as well they killed magoffin with the option i mean layed it to them they never got fancy till the second half after magoffin put them on the ropes they ran the option until josh patton busted it up and cause a fumble resulting in caleb halls td... after that they never ran the option again

He didnt bust anything up it was a bad pitch. then your second touchdown came on a bad pitch.

[HornetPride]

well it was a bad pitch because patton made him pitch it as he was falling i consider that busting it up

[Hillbilly F-ball]

Magoffin Co against P-ville 2-0 !!!! Hornet Pride!!!!!!

[Jon419]

Personally I like Paintsville running the spread... I think it will help them get some players.

With the style of football JC plays, it is useless for a kid to play there if they wanna be a QB or a WR

If Paintsville runs the spread, to me I believe it will help them pull some kids more interested in playing in a more exciting style offense. They will have some growing pains with it but I think it will pay off in the long run.

Plus not a lot of teams in the area run it, so many teams dont do well defending it.

[Hillbilly F-ball]

Personally I like Paintsville running the spread... I think it will help them get some players.

With the style of football JC plays, it is useless for a kid to play there if they wanna be a QB or a WR

If Paintsville runs the spread, to me I believe it will help them pull some kids more interested in playing in a more exciting style offense. They will have some growing pains with it but I think it will pay off in the long run.

Plus not a lot of teams in the area run it, so many teams dont do well defending it.

Great Point, I agree

[Superman20]

Personally I like Paintsville running the spread... I think it will help them get some players.

With the style of football JC plays, it is useless for a kid to play there if they wanna be a QB or a WR

If Paintsville runs the spread, to me I believe it will help them pull some kids more interested in playing in a more exciting style offense. They will have some growing pains with it but I think it will pay off in the long run.

Plus not a lot of teams in the area run it, so many teams dont do well defending it.

Im not a fan of the spread offense but at one point in time I hoped that it would attract players to the program for the very same reasons you mentioned. It didn't happen and still hasn't happened yet. Not saying that it wont happen some day but its hard to lure kids away from jc when they play for region titles and have big crowds every friday night. In my opinion, Paintsville should play whatever style suites the players that they have each season. For Paintsville to lure in more players, the bottom line is they have to get more wins. Coaching is another aspect that makes it difficult for kids to want to leave a school like jc. Matney is a well accomplished coach and has been for several years and at phs you have a young coach that hasn't won very many ball games. Maybe eventually kinner might be able to use his style of play as a way to get more players to his program later on down the road. Guess we will all just have to wait and see.

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

Magoffin Co against P-ville 2-0 !!!! Hornet Pride!!!!!!

2-1 we beat you in 09

[cuppett777]

congrats to MC

[honestjchsfan]

Nothing against Mr. Kinner but I think PHS should have hired Ronnie Wells. Many of Ronnie's former players at JCHS have sons that are outstanding there, plus he is a great coach, he may have been able to pull 1 or 2 good ones over. As far as the "spread' goes its great a offense but its a timing offense and very easy to get out of sink with it. When things go bad thats when you go back to the basics. You must remmeber that the "Veer" was a offense designed for teams that have less talent. It takes a Stud at QB to have a great Spread Offense he has got be able to throw and run with speed and power. I remember the days of Holbrook running that Option, he could have run the Spread. He is one of the most over looked Athletes in PHS histroy he had to run a 4.4-40 and tough as nails too. I have saw ever OB at PHS since 1983 and he is the best in my book,

[Superman20]

Nothing against Mr. Kinner but I think PHS should have hired Ronnie Wells. Many of Ronnie's former players at JCHS have sons that are outstanding there, plus he is a great coach, he may have been able to pull 1 or 2 good ones over. As far as the "spread' goes its great a offense but its a timing offense and very easy to get out of sink with it. When things go bad thats when you go back to the basics. You must remmeber that the "Veer" was a offense designed for teams that have less talent. It takes a Stud at QB to have a great Spread Offense he has got be able to throw and run with speed and power. I remember the days of Holbrook running that Option, he could have run the Spread. He is one of the most over looked Athletes in PHS histroy he had to run a 4.4-40 and tough as nails too. I have saw ever OB at PHS since 1983 and he is the best in my book,

That's why im not a big supporter of the spread o in high school football unless your loaded with great athletes like trinity, and fort thomas highlands. The school system should have waited to give jason the head job and let him get more experience coaching as an assistant. Better qualified coaches wanted the job. When they backstabbed jim tom, they got what they had coming to them. If people only knew how much backstabbing went on when jim tom was there. Ask pburg fans how good of a coach he is.

[IBleedTrueBlue]

Nothing against Mr. Kinner but I think PHS should have hired Ronnie Wells. Many of Ronnie's former players at JCHS have sons that are outstanding there, plus he is a great coach, he may have been able to pull 1 or 2 good ones over. As far as the "spread' goes its great a offense but its a timing offense and very easy to get out of sink with it. When things go bad thats when you go back to the basics. You must remmeber that the "Veer" was a offense designed for teams that have less talent. It takes a Stud at QB to have a great Spread Offense he has got be able to throw and run with speed and power. I remember the days of Holbrook running that Option, he could have run the Spread. He is one of the most over looked Athletes in PHS histroy he had to run a 4.4-40 and tough as nails too. I have saw ever OB at PHS since 1983 and he is the best in my book,

nicker:

[honestjchsfan]

It might seem funny to you but Ronnie was 2-1 vs Paintsville and one of those wins came against that 85' group that played in the state finals. Heck if JCHS keeps him there he wins the 88' and 89' apple Bowl. Ask Joe Portor how good a group Ronnie had at JCHS coming when they fired him. Greg Slone running behind Chris Deaton would have been hard to stop. I think JCHS fired him because of all the injuries he had the year before, he beat Paintsville that year without 5 or 6 starters playing and a Freshmen QB. His starting QB Jimmy Danials (now a PHS coach) was out with a concussion. I think Greg Slone was hurt most of that year to.

[Superman20]

Ronnie was and still is more qualified for that job then jason so what's so funny about that suggestion? The only thing.I've read that's funny is the excuses made every year

[honestjchsfan]

NO excuses from me the better team won those games fair and square. Paintsville had a great group of guys too. There is know way to know what would have happen. It was ashame that Ronnie didn't get to coach those years. I do know that Ronnie took his Freshmen and Sophmores up to Pikeville and beat them up there in JV game that Deramus, Honaker and Macme played in. Ronnie ran that Green Bay Packer sweep with big Brain Hall. Only person that could stop it was Steve Trimble, he refused to run that play for Bryan in 88. I will never forget Greg Slone returning a Punt for a TD vs Belfry. Most awsome run I ever saw in High school football. I think JJ Jude is the only RB that Johnson Co has produced better than Greg. Greg was really a Great athlete. His Freshmen team at JCHS was maybe the best class I ever saw, Big James Davis who played a Paintville was a part of that team. That Group also has a fullback that was 2nd class 3A in the High jump who jumped 6 feet 8 inchs and he could run like a deer. Steve Trimble didn't like tall RB's and moved the guy to offensive tackle. The High Jumper told after the Apple Bowl Ronnie hugged him and all he said was "I am so sorry for you not gettin to carry that pumpkin". I will never forget the JCHS players crying when they found out he had been fired. Ronnie Wells is a great man and coach and to this day he treats me better than anyone from JCHS! TRUE CLASS ACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Superman20]

I like ronnie wells as well. I wasn't talking about you making excuses, I was talking about the handful of people in town that have so many excuses for why Paintsville hs football isn't good anymore.

[F.N.L.]

You boys over there at Magoffin better not get your hopes up on beatin' the big P-ville. Jenkins had Paintsville beat right up till 2:00 minutes to go in the game. Jenkins lead 12-0 at the half, so don't get HIGH on the Paintsville win. Not to mention the SMACKDOWN an 0-3 West Carter gave Magoffin tonight.

[honestjchsfan]

Jenkins? The Jenkins?

[F.N.L.]

Yes, Jenkins. What on earth has happened to Paintsville football?

[Superman20]

Poor coaching

[Redneck]

I am surprised, I thought with Daniels back out Paintsville would be much improved. Magoffin has had some hardships with coaching and funding, but hats off to CoachMccoy for keeping it together.

And what made you think they would be much improved with Daniels back out.