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2017 Sep 25 Class 3A Media Poll
#61
Bossdaddy 4115 Wrote:Just like you said in a previous quote, what I thought lol.
State a factual statement instead of your genius thought. Belfry is king until someone dethrones them, the closest team to do it was corbin last year that is a factual statement. Belfry plays a harder road to get to state than in the championship, that's another fact. Third and final fact if corbin and belfry stay healthy the winner on thanksgiving weekend is your 3a state championship team.

Do you not understand what the definition of "fact" is?!?! You might want to reread your post and try again. There is definitely some opinion that is cluttering the post up.
#62
blackandgold4life Wrote:As a long time Boyle fan, we are getting better but in my opinion we are not on Belfry or Corbin level. We have played one team that was what I would consider good and that was Danville and we struggled. Now with that being said the play calling on Boyle side was not very good but at the end of the day the kids didn't get it done and took a loss. I would love to see us play Belfry or Corbin or whomever in the finals but we still have lots of work to do. And if we can't beat Catholic by a couple of TD's no need to have anymore conversations about where we stand and Coach Smith would agree.

I agree with nearly all of this post.
#63
Wienerschnitzel Wrote:Do you not understand what the definition of "fact" is?!?! You might want to reread your post and try again. There is definitely some opinion that is cluttering the post up.

I am not going to waste anymore time discussing this with a fan but there schedules do state facts, belfry is still champ until someone takes it that is a fact. Your an idiot just looking to start a ruffle, I will rephrase my post to football facts then genius.
#64
Bossdaddy 4115 Wrote:I am not going to waste anymore time discussing this with a fan but there schedules do state facts, belfry is still champ until someone takes it that is a fact. Your an idiot just looking to start a ruffle, I will rephrase my post to football facts then genius.

I was just backing my team with facts and some got defensive. It's a message board. Relax.
#65
If your so sure of you team have the coach contact corbin, not sure if the slot they played Alcoa was more than one year deal but see if you can get you team in that spot. That corbin group of juniors will will be seniors next year and would like to prove how good they truly are.
#66
Wienerschnitzel Wrote:Landon Bartleson 6'1" 185lbs RB/CB

10.95 100M KY state champion

Three others that run sub 11.6...one of which was honorable mention all-state football as a freshman last year (Reese Smith).

Bartleston wants no part of playing on the field with belfry. Seth mounts will rip his head off and smile at your sideline with his blood in his teeth... and he's a freshman too.

Reese is a good player, but Devin varney has seen better.
#67
Ballistic Wrote:Bartleston wants no part of playing on the field with belfry. Seth mounts will rip his head off and smile at your sideline with his blood in his teeth... and he's a freshman too.

Reese is a good player, but Devin varney has seen better.

Not sure about Mounts but if Varney hasn't seen better that's a knock on him considering he is a Senior and Smith is a Sophomore. Smith and Bartleson will hold their own but at the end of the day its a team sport not a 1,2,3 man show. Like I said before Boyle isn't there yet but no matter who makes it to the finals I hope its a great game cause to me when Boyle was just demolishing people like Belfry has done it wasn't any fun, but that's just me.
#68
Ballistic Wrote:Bartleston wants no part of playing on the field with belfry. Seth mounts will rip his head off and smile at your sideline with his blood in his teeth... and he's a freshman too.

Reese is a good player, but Devin varney has seen better.

Lmao

Ok
#69
Bossdaddy 4115 Wrote:If your so sure of you team have the coach contact corbin, not sure if the slot they played Alcoa was more than one year deal but see if you can get you team in that spot. That corbin group of juniors will will be seniors next year and would like to prove how good they truly are.

I'm not the least bit worried about Corbin because you can't beat Belfry. Schedules are set a couple years in advance. We did play your JV team this year and waxed them. And we do have one of your juniors on our team now. Really good kid/player, starts at CB.
#70
blackandgold4life Wrote:Not sure about Mounts but if Varney hasn't seen better that's a knock on him considering he is a Senior and Smith is a Sophomore. Smith and Bartleson will hold their own but at the end of the day its a team sport not a 1,2,3 man show. Like I said before Boyle isn't there yet but no matter who makes it to the finals I hope its a great game cause to me when Boyle was just demolishing people like Belfry has done it wasn't any fun, but that's just me.


To be honest it's getting boring for Varney because no one throws or runs towards him anymore I guess that's a compliment but he is a kid that needs to be in the action in the past 4 years he's seen some really good WR and he's always came out on top
#71
We would throw against Belfry, but we throw against everyone...very balanced attack. If he's on Reese Smith it'd be a hell of a matchup.
#72
Wienerschnitzel Wrote:Man...by the looks of this, you seem to know more than our HOF coach on scheduling?!?! Because according to you...Waggener, Danville, Wayne, Collins are damn near the same team.

Wow! You should be a coach.

Dude, slow your roll. You have a grand total of 46 posts on this site, and not a full month of experience yet. He doesn't need defended, but I think if you will sit back and relax, you'll see that EKUAlum05 is about the most logical, sensible, and realistic poster on the whole site. Well, next to me. Ha.
#73
Hurricane Storm Wrote:Dude, slow your roll. You have a grand total of 46 posts on this site, and not a full month of experience yet. He doesn't need defended, but I think if you will sit back and relax, you'll see that EKUAlum05 is about the most logical, sensible, and realistic poster on the whole site. Well, next to me. Ha.

So exactly how many posts does it take for me to know what I'm talking about?

TIA
#74
Ballistic Wrote:Bartleston wants no part of playing on the field with belfry. Seth mounts will rip his head off and smile at your sideline with his blood in his teeth... and he's a freshman too.

Reese is a good player, but Devin varney has seen better.
:thatsfunn
#75
Hurricane Storm Wrote:Dude, slow your roll. You have a grand total of 46 posts on this site, and not a full month of experience yet. He doesn't need defended, but I think if you will sit back and relax, you'll see that EKUAlum05 is about the most logical, sensible, and realistic poster on the whole site. Well, next to me. Ha.

I disagree with that false statement
#76
Wienerschnitzel Wrote:Man...by the looks of this, you seem to know more than our HOF coach on scheduling?!?! Because according to you...Waggener, Danville, Wayne, Collins are damn near the same team.

Wow! You should be a coach.

Stop being sensitive and answer the question..

Who has Boyle played that is remotely close enough to Belfry to warrant you thinking that what Belfry has done to roll to 4 straight state titles will suddenly not work against Boyle?

I will freely concede though that I in fact forgot Boyle played Wayne County.

Wayne does not fit that same mold... they are nothing like Belfry in terms of scheme...but they are a much better team and a much better coached team that Waggener, Collins, North Hardin, and John Hardin (who I still insist are pretty much the same team).

I still can't figure out your hypothesis that Boyle stops teams that only run is founded?


Boyle looks good... no lie... but they also looked great at this same point a few years back when Josiah Robbins played and yet we saw where that got them.
#77
Wienerschnitzel Wrote:I'm not the least bit worried about Corbin because you can't beat Belfry. Schedules are set a couple years in advance. We did play your JV team this year and waxed them. And we do have one of your juniors on our team now. Really good kid/player, starts at CB.

J v is not varsity. He is a good kid.
#78
EKUAlum05 Wrote:Stop being sensitive and answer the question..

Who has Boyle played that is remotely close enough to Belfry to warrant you thinking that what Belfry has done to roll to 4 straight state titles will suddenly not work against Boyle?

I will freely concede though that I in fact forgot Boyle played Wayne County.

Wayne does not fit that same mold... they are nothing like Belfry in terms of scheme...but they are a much better team and a much better coached team that Waggener, Collins, North Hardin, and John Hardin (who I still insist are pretty much the same team).

I still can't figure out your hypothesis that Boyle stops teams that only run is founded?


Boyle looks good... no lie... but they also looked great at this same point a few years back when Josiah Robbins played and yet we saw where that got them.

Boyle in its history has always been a very good run stopping team and had trouble with the pass. Belfry can't throw the ball and we can stack the box and go man.

Quit acting like you're the smartest person in the room.

When you generalize it makes you look ridiculous. Things like Perry owns Smith. Ever think Perry had better teams? How many titles does Perry have? What does Belfrys past four titles have I do with this season? They aren't the same team. Josiah was damn near a one man team and was injured. This team is really good with very young guys that are growing up fast.

Other people know their own team, maybe you should not be an ass and have an intelligent conversation?!?!
#79
Bossdaddy 4115 Wrote:J v is not varsity. He is a good kid.

True.

But we didn't have about 9/10 sophomores that didn't play in the JV game because they're varsity only. I also know a soph at Corbin and I know that class struggles.
#80
Wienerschnitzel Wrote:Boyle in its history has always been a very good run stopping team and had trouble with the pass. Belfry can't throw the ball and we can stack the box and go man.

Quit acting like you're the smartest person in the room.

When you generalize it makes you look ridiculous. Things like Perry owns Smith. Ever think Perry had better teams? How many titles does Perry have? What does Belfrys past four titles have I do with this season? They aren't the same team. Josiah was damn near a one man team and was injured. This team is really good with very young guys that are growing up fast.

Other people know their own team, maybe you should not be an ass and have an intelligent conversation?!?!

Deal.. when you stop acting like a little hair triggered bitch I am waiting to have any conversation you want.

So how can you say on one hand a statement like "Boyle in its history has always been a very good run stopping team and had trouble with the pass."

Then turn right around and try to play this weak crap:
"What does Belfrys past four titles have I do with this season? They aren't the same team."



So Boyle's history is firm foundation for your argument but Belfry's very recent history isn't? Come on man. You going to quote stats from Chuck Smith's teams back when they had the Tammes playing next? LOL

Also you keep hanging on this youth thing... you do realize that Belfry has won four of the past five Middle School State Championships? That 2020 Boyle class is going to be special, no denying that, but let's not forget about Belfry's 2020 class.

Boyle chose not to play for the State Title. Belfry went undefeated and won the hardware, beat the eventual big school champion Johnson Central two times in the process. I would say Belfry's youth is pretty darn good and growing up equally as fast.
#81
Stacking the box and playing Man... wonder why Louisville central didn't try that the last two times we played them?
#82
EKUAlum05 Wrote:Deal.. when you stop acting like a little hair triggered bitch I am waiting to have any conversation you want.

So how can you say on one hand a statement like "Boyle in its history has always been a very good run stopping team and had trouble with the pass."

Then turn right around and try to play this weak crap:
"What does Belfrys past four titles have I do with this season? They aren't the same team."



So Boyle's history is firm foundation for your argument but Belfry's very recent history isn't? Come on man. You going to quote stats from Chuck Smith's teams back when they had the Tammes playing next? LOL

Also you keep hanging on this youth thing... you do realize that Belfry has won four of the past five Middle School State Championships? That 2020 Boyle class is going to be special, no denying that, but let's not forget about Belfry's 2020 class.

Boyle chose not to play for the State Title. Belfry went undefeated and won the hardware, beat the eventual big school champion Johnson Central two times in the process. I would say Belfry's youth is pretty darn good and growing up equally as fast.

I didn't quote stats. It's a philosophy. It's what we do. This season we have the players to do it (stop the run). A title run ends when classes graduate. It's not a philosophy, it's talent/players, etc. you don't see the difference?!?! I think if you would be intellectually honest with yourself, you'd say yes.

Don't talk to me about middle school titles. It's not a real state championship and I know the Belfry 2020 class and you're right, they're good...but they don't have the talent of Boyle's and I know someone who saw us both up close and personal, who had an interest in both teams and who said both were really good but we were better (more speed/playmakers).

The new BCMS coach has signed up this years team and they are the overall #1 seed in DII. But you won't hear me brag about it because I understand half of the state doesn't even play in it. It is a great accomplishment if they can win it.
#83
Ballistic Wrote:Stacking the box and playing Man... wonder why Louisville central didn't try that the last two times we played them?

I didn't say it would work against your last two teams. I was referring to THIS SEASON.
#84
Ballistic Wrote:Taveon Hunter
Write that name down

One more.....Derek Wellman
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
#85
Hey Wienerdickle have you ever watched Belfry play? I've watched Boyle on hudl and been impressed, but Belfry plays against that style all the time although I think Boyle is a little more talented than most. All I can say is if we meet you better be able to go 4 quarters. I don't mean 3 or 3.5 or 3.75. Just ask Corbin. You gotta go hard for 48 minutes and take that pounding. Lots of smoke being spit from someone who's team ain't done jack recently.
#86
And no, this ain't the same team that won 4 straight. This team will make its own mark.
#87
bucslover68 Wrote:Hey Wienerdickle have you ever watched Belfry play? I've watched Boyle on hudl and been impressed, but Belfry plays against that style all the time although I think Boyle is a little more talented than most. All I can say is if we meet you better be able to go 4 quarters. I don't mean 3 or 3.5 or 3.75. Just ask Corbin. You gotta go hard for 48 minutes and take that pounding. Lots of smoke being spit from someone who's team ain't done jack recently.

Again...don't see how you think the last four year has ANY impact on your ability to beat someone. You have experience. That really helps. But this year you don't have athleticism, pride or expectations on Boyle.

Fwiw...if we aren't ready to go four quarters then you won't be seeing us on Dec 1 because we won't make it.

But you better be ready to defend the entire field all game with people faster than you, a dline that is big and pretty dang good and a secondary that can run and hit. This ain't anything like the past Rebels title teams.

One last thing...get us while you can because we are about to go on a great run over the next 4-6 years.
#88
We will be right there with ya...Our second biggest concern, tied with the D line, coming into this season was our O line, and they have been awesome. They only start one senior.
#89
I wouldn't go comparing to your title teams until this team actually accomplishes something.
#90
Wienerschnitzel Wrote:I didn't quote stats. It's a philosophy. It's what we do. This season we have the players to do it (stop the run). A title run ends when classes graduate. It's not a philosophy, it's talent/players, etc. you don't see the difference?!?! I think if you would be intellectually honest with yourself, you'd say yes.

Belfry's philosophy is to run all over teams who otherwise think they can stop the run. It's what they do. This season Belfry has the players to do what they always do (run at will on 3A teams).


A title run does end when players graduate, 100% agree with, that's why Boyle fell off when guys like Lamar Dawson were not there. The only problem is Belfry is still chock full of players who are multi-year starters on State Championship teams. Technically their run is still going. Players who have played huge in games that Boyle's youth has never experienced.

With the exception of this Freshman class you do realize that not a single player on this Belfry team knows what it means to lose their final game?

Brother you have a lot to be optimistic about. I have said that several times. Boyle is about to be as strong as they have in a while. With that said, you can't be getting mad about talking in generalities and throw something extra general out like that you think Boyle is suddenly going to be the team to be a bad match-up for Belfry's Offense when there is literally zero evidence that Boyle can back it up.

You can feel confident in your team. You can break down X's and O's,I can respect that. Noone can take exception in believing in your team. Just when someone calls you out on a bold claim and you get all pissed, have some more ammo than some "philosophy" discussion.

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