2019 4A Preseason Rankings

**Hoot Gibson** · 12-06-2018, 08:00 PM

Hatz Wrote:Since when is Campbell Stadium a neutral site?

The key for Boyle will be injuries. They had a slew of them this year and in the end it didn't help vs a talented and prepared Corbin team.

I for one look forward to Boyle's season next year. I think they will be very hungry after their ending this year. Add to that the quality of some of the opponents they have added to their schedule ought to prepare them very nicely for 4A post season. :Thumbs:

Sorry, I guess that I had already forgotten that Boyle didn't manage to make it to the finals.

~~FoSho~~ · 12-06-2018, 08:06 PM

Hoot Gibson Wrote:LOL. Well excuse me for not buying into the notion that Boyle is the overwhelming favorite to win 4A next season after failing to come close to making the 3A finals this season.

I think that I will wait until at least a few games are played next season before crowning any team as the overwhelming favorites.

In summary....

You are a hater that isn't paying attention.

Good to know moving forward.

BoyleCo · 12-06-2018, 09:24 PM

Boyle is the favorite. Johnson Central is 2nd. Anderson is 3rd. Central is 4th. Corbin 5th. Just my take.

Hatz · 12-06-2018, 09:58 PM

Hoot Gibson Wrote:Sorry, I guess that I had already forgotten that Boyle didn't manage to make it to the finals.

Come on Hoot, itâs onky been a week. Surely your memory isnât going that quick. :Thumbs:

Single Wing 77 · 12-06-2018, 10:05 PM

I wonât call Boyle the favorite, just because theyâre new to the classification like some others. Therefore Iâll say that Johnson Central is the favorite. Boyle is the most talented though, anybody who doesnât believe that is in denial.

~~FoSho~~ · 12-06-2018, 10:24 PM

Single Wing 77 Wrote:I wonât call Boyle the favorite, just because theyâre new to the classification like some others. Therefore Iâll say that Johnson Central is the favorite. Boyle is the most talented though, anybody who doesnât believe that is in denial.

Sensible post, I can live with that opinion.

Good thing for the Rebs is that Corbin and JC will have to come to Danville in the post season.

OutlawJoseyWales · 12-07-2018, 12:18 AM

bcpc Wrote:I def see Boyle, JC, Anderson, Franklin Simpson, Corbin in the top 5. Boyle has to be the overwhelming favorite with their athleticism and coaching. The latest news with Central just set them back big time.

You mean like this past season? Some of ya'll need to take the blinders off. Boyle may be very good.....heck they may win it next year. But to say they're the overwhelming favorite is horse hockey.

They didn't even win 3A this year with all the athleticism and coaching. JC and others are gonna have a lot to say about it. However....until someone knocks off Preston and the FS Wildcats, they hold down the #1 spot. Once that happens....then let the jockeying begin.

Cappy · 12-07-2018, 12:53 AM

The Hounds will struggle next year so I wouldn't put too much stock in a big year. This group of Seniors will be a much bigger loss than most realize. It is a huge group with lots of contributors. Not to mention many of the team's best players. They are a group that forces their piers to play to a higher level. Corbin will have some talent returning but nothing like what they have lost as a group. Going to need to have a QB step up. Hard to replace a Sr. QB that contributed so much to the Offense.

~~FoSho~~ · 12-07-2018, 01:11 AM

OutlawJoseyWales Wrote:You mean like this past season? Some of ya'll need to take the blinders off. Boyle may be very good.....heck they may win it next year. But to say they're the overwhelming favorite is horse hockey.

They didn't even win 3A this year with all the athleticism and coaching. JC and others are gonna have a lot to say about it. However....until someone knocks off Preston and the FS Wildcats, they hold down the #1 spot. Once that happens....then let the jockeying begin.

Boyle Co lost three starters to season ending injuries (5 starting positions), had their best player limited to one hand, their best RB hobbled by a knee injury (and didn't play RB the last month) and their QB was ill and on an IV the two days leading up the game vs Corbin including halftime of the game.

Now I'm not making excuses on the loss but let's get a reality check about where we stand.

Boyle Co was deserving of their #1 ranking in 3A and if healthy could have had a different outcome to the season. But to dismiss them next season as underachievers or "not as good as we thought" is ridiculous.

JC didn't win the title either and they lost some of their KEY PIECES to graduation. FS lost A TON as well, as did Corbin and Central. Boyle did not.

To say the Rebels aren't the favorite is wishful thinking IMO.

OutlawJoseyWales · 12-07-2018, 01:20 AM

FoSho Wrote:Boyle Co lost three starters to season ending injuries (5 starting positions), had their best player limited to one hand, their best RB hobbled by a knee injury (and didn't play RB the last month) and their QB was ill and on an IV the two days leading up the game vs Corbin including halftime of the game.

Now I'm not making excuses on the loss but let's get a reality check about where we stand.

Boyle Co was deserving of their #1 ranking in 3A and if healthy could have had a different outcome to the season. But to dismiss them next season as underachievers or "not as good as we thought" is ridiculous.

JC didn't win the title either and they lost some of their KEY PIECES to graduation. FS lost A TON as well, as did Corbin and Central.

To say the Rebels aren't the favorite is wishful thinking IMO.

Kinda funny when other teams offer up excuses on why their season ended in a woulda, coulda, shoulda fashion, its scoffed at...hmmm...interesting.

Here are a few facts for ya....Franklin Simpson has been in the 4A Championship Game 3 straight years......winning the last two. Those are facts. Until someone knocks them off.....IMO, they sit atop of 4A. Granted that may happen early on. Maybe....then again....maybe not. But until such time that occurs.....everyone in 4A is chasing tail. And unless you're the lead dog....the scene never changes. Right now....FS is the lead dog.

blackandgold4life · 12-07-2018, 01:31 AM

I love reading these forums they give me a good laugh everyday. I am a Boyle fan and I wish them the best but if things donât change from what happened at Corbin then Boyle might get the same result. I thought the kids gave it all they had not sure about the rest.......

~~FoSho~~ · 12-07-2018, 02:05 AM

OutlawJoseyWales Wrote:Kinda funny when other teams offer up excuses on why their season ended in a woulda, coulda, shoulda fashion, its scoffed at...hmmm...interesting.

Here are a few facts for ya....Franklin Simpson has been in the 4A Championship Game 3 straight years......winning the last two. Those are facts. Until someone knocks them off.....IMO, they sit atop of 4A. Granted that may happen early on. Maybe....then again....maybe not. But until such time that occurs.....everyone in 4A is chasing tail. And unless you're the lead dog....the scene never changes. Right now....FS is the lead dog.

You (and others) made a comment about how Boyle didn't win the title. And I was informing you of things that effected that. I said it "could" have made a difference in their season. Corbin played very well and we would need to play MUCH better to have beaten them.

But in grading next year, you must grade by what the facts are and this past season has ZERO bearing on that.

And to the Boyle Co fan....changes do need to happen but you never know if those changes will work. You also don't know how different the team may look with transfers.

**Hoot Gibson** · 12-07-2018, 02:14 AM

Hatz Wrote:Come on Hoot, itâs onky been a week. Surely your memory isnât going that quick. :Thumbs:

I guess that I was still in shock after learning that the best team in 3A had been upset by 21 points before they even reached the championship round. It is interesting to learn that I am a "hater" because I don't believe that there is an overwhelming favorite to win 4A next season.

IMO, it is reasonable for BC fans to believe that their team will be one of the top teams in 4A next season, and it is even reasonable for them to believe that they will be favored to win a state title next season...but "overwhelming" favorites? That is an absurd assertion to make on the heels of this season's results. If the Rebels had won a title this season, then such a claim would not have sounded so ridiculous.

**Hoot Gibson** · 12-07-2018, 02:21 AM

FoSho Wrote:Boyle Co lost three starters to season ending injuries (5 starting positions), had their best player limited to one hand, their best RB hobbled by a knee injury (and didn't play RB the last month) and their QB was ill and on an IV the two days leading up the game vs Corbin including halftime of the game.

Now I'm not making excuses on the loss but let's get a reality check about where we stand.

Boyle Co was deserving of their #1 ranking in 3A and if healthy could have had a different outcome to the season. But to dismiss them next season as underachievers or "not as good as we thought" is ridiculous.

JC didn't win the title either and they lost some of their KEY PIECES to graduation. FS lost A TON as well, as did Corbin and Central. Boyle did not.

To say the Rebels aren't the favorite is wishful thinking IMO.

I made no such claim. I only took issue with the claim that Boyle is the overwhelming favorite to win the 4A title next season. Boyle sure has some thin skinned fans in their ranks. :biglmao:

~~FoSho~~ · 12-07-2018, 02:21 AM

I never said overwhelming favorites. But based upon the facts, I would definetly put them Preseason #1.

Don't worry JC is gunna get their chance and they got a hellova team with some really good kids.

....and for the record, it's a message board, it's not thin skinned it is called a discussion.

Jack Lambert · 12-07-2018, 02:31 AM

Hoot Gibson Wrote:I made no such claim. I only took issue with the claim that Boyle is the overwhelming favorite to win the 4A title next season. Boyle sure has some thin skinned fans in their ranks. :biglmao:

I never said that Boyle was the (overwhelming) favorite, so could you enlighten us as to who did?

I did say That IMO they should be preseason #1 with all that everyone else has lost and all that Boyle brings back.

~~FoSho~~ · 12-07-2018, 02:39 AM

bcpc Wrote:Corbins Hardest hit will be at QB and LB... they lose 3/4. However they are also deep at that position.. As for QB, Haddix needs to get to work on this... He has options, but they are all young/inexperienced... they wonât be down long...
I def see Boyle, JC, Anderson, Franklin Simpson, Corbin in the top 5. Boyle has to be the overwhelming favorite with their athleticism and coaching. The latest news with Central just set them back big time.

I found the post but I thought this was a Corbin fan?!?!

Jack Lambert · 12-07-2018, 02:42 AM

FoSho Wrote:I found the post but I thought this was a Corbin fan?!?!

This is a Corbin fan, looks like Hoot got his feathers ruffled for nothing as far as Boyle county fans go.

**Hoot Gibson** · 12-07-2018, 02:45 AM

Jack Lambert Wrote:I never said that Boyle was the (overwhelming) favorite, so could you enlighten us as to who did?

I did say That IMO they should be preseason #1 with all that everyone else has lost and all that Boyle brings back.

I only took issue with the "overwhelming" favorite claim, which only one Boyle fan made...and for that, I have been labeled a Boyle "hater."

http://www.bluegrassrivals.com/forum/sho...stcount=53

~~FoSho~~ · 12-07-2018, 02:51 AM

Hoot Gibson Wrote:I only took issue with the "overwhelming" favorite claim, which only one Boyle fan made...and for that, I have been labeled a Boyle "hater."

http://www.bluegrassrivals.com/forum/sho...stcount=53

Well looks like you need to start over.

Lol

**Hoot Gibson** · 12-07-2018, 02:55 AM

FoSho Wrote:I found the post but I thought this was a Corbin fan?!?!

It's strange that a Corbin fan commenting in a 4A thread would have a screen name beginning with "bc" and declaring Boyle County to be the overwhelming favorite. Either way, my response was on the money and did not warrant the tone of the responses to my post.

Hatz · 12-07-2018, 02:58 AM

Hoot Gibson Wrote:I only took issue with the "overwhelming" favorite claim, which only one Boyle fan made...and for that, I have been labeled a Boyle "hater."

http://www.bluegrassrivals.com/forum/sho...stcount=53

Hoot, heâs not a Boyle fan.

**Hoot Gibson** · 12-07-2018, 02:58 AM

FoSho Wrote:Well looks like you need to start over.

Lol

I don't think so. I will stand by my response that there is no overwhelming favorite to win 4A in 2019.

**Hoot Gibson** · 12-07-2018, 02:59 AM

Hatz Wrote:Hoot, heâs not a Boyle fan.

Maybe not, but he is still wrong.

Jack Lambert · 12-07-2018, 03:07 AM

Hoot Gibson Wrote:Maybe not, but he is still wrong.

In your opinion, there happens to be several others that might agree with him, and just because you think so doesnât mean heâs wrong.

~~FoSho~~ · 12-07-2018, 03:12 AM

Seems like there is a JC fan on here with some really thin skin.

Hoot you should have just said, "My bad guys, I thought he was a Boyle fan."

Hatz · 12-07-2018, 03:13 AM

Hoot Gibson Wrote:Maybe not, but he is still wrong.

Oh, I agree with you that heâs wrong. No Boyle fans have made such a claim of prohibitive favorite. :Thumbs:

**Hoot Gibson** · 12-07-2018, 03:39 AM

Jack Lambert Wrote:In your opinion, there happens to be several others that might agree with him, and just because you think so doesnât mean heâs wrong.

Until the playoffs are over and one's team has won the title or been eliminated, opinions are all we have. I don't see the need for inserting "IMO" at the beginning of every post. Thank you for pointing out the obvious.

**Hoot Gibson** · 12-07-2018, 03:41 AM

FoSho Wrote:Seems like there is a JC fan on here with some really thin skin.

Hoot you should have just said, "My bad guys, I thought he was a Boyle fan."

Maybe a Boyle County fan should have set the guy straight. Surely, this season was a lesson in humility for some of you. :Thumbs:

**Hoot Gibson** · 12-07-2018, 03:46 AM

Hatz Wrote:Oh, I agree with you that heâs wrong. No Boyle fans have made such a claim of prohibitive favorite. :Thumbs:

Note that in my initial response, I never identified the poster as a Boyle fan. However, multiple Boyle fans seemed to be offended at my suggestion that there will be no overwhelming favorite to win the 4A state title in 2019, at least not before the season has even begun.