[bucslover68]

Some final observations about this game and Belfry's season and future.
-I'm gonna miss watching Messer play. The kid is one of the finest blockers and tacklers to play at Belfry in recent years IMO.
-Belfry never used Messer enough in the passing game. He was a mismatch for anyone he played against and I believe he had only 16 receptions the last two years.
-Central's D can fly and when they pin their ears back they can wreak havoc. They are susceptible to size and strength like Belfry's , but they never broke. Give them credit.
-The hug between Haywood and Scroggins was cool.
-The sky is the limit for Austin Hatfield.
-Central will be deadly again defensively next year.
-I don't totally buy the argument that the west is so much better than the east. There is some legitimacy to it, but the west is one great team, Central, one good team, Bell, and several average to above average teams in Wayne, Monroe, and a couple of others. But next year really does support that argument. Belfy will have their easiest path back to BG. Breathitt will be a team of huge uncertainty and the rest of the so-called contenders , and I'm not gonna list them but we know who they are, just aren't that good.
-Speaking of next year. There are plenty of holes to fill for Belfry both ways, but they got the kids to do it. The backfield CAN be unreal. Warren at QB, Carr, Hatfield, Taylor, Dari and possibly Johnson all return.
-Central and Belfry again in the broken record finals.

[Coachdad]

4 year varsity starter , football scholly ! 4 year starter in college ,Degree , high school football coach , father of one of The best college linemen in the COUNTRY see ya at the Orange Bowl, stfu everybody doesn't have to be &will not be like you!!!
I'm one of the ones who talks learn to love it or live with it !

If you can't take it get the he££ off the Internet ! I'll give you $100 American dollars if you come up here & wax my new caddy it's going to be warm today !

[BELLBOBCATS]

but it also dont mean that Bell is better than Belfry either

Bell is NOT better than Belfry......Belfry is NOT better than Bell. Who knows who would win, they did not play. Until they play nobody knows. :HitWall:
Here would be MY top five in 3A football this year:
1. Louisville Central.
2. It don't really matter from here on out, but i'll put Belfry at 2, because the
only one that matters is #1.


Central is leaps and bounds above ALL of 3A. From the coaching staff to the players. And imo it all falls back to the coaching staff, they know how to win games against all of the 3A schools....How? By a way tougher non district schedule and better off season preparations. Yes they have athletes but if imo that also goes back to the coaching staff. Until teams put in the work during the off season then Central will dominate 3A year in and year out.

[bucslover68]

Bell is NOT better than Belfry......Belfry is NOT better than Bell. Who knows who would win, they did not play. Until they play nobody knows. :HitWall:
Here would be MY top five in 3A football this year:
1. Louisville Central.
2. It don't really matter from here on out, but i'll put Belfry at 2, because the
only one that matters is #1.


Central is leaps and bounds above ALL of 3A. From the coaching staff to the players. And imo it all falls back to the coaching staff, they know how to win games against all of the 3A schools....How? By a way tougher non district schedule and better off season preparations. Yes they have athletes but if imo that also goes back to the coaching staff. Until teams put in the work during the off season then Central will dominate 3A year in and year out.

I agree with a lot of what you say Bell but Central is not leaps and bounds better, they are just better and that is all that matters. They won their last 4 playoff games by 18 points. That is not a big margin of victory, but victory it is still. Belfry, man to man was just as good. Central did not run by Belfry on the outside with their wideouts. They just make plays more than the teams they play and that is a great attribute. Better they are, but the gap is closer now than it has ever been.

[piratepride90]

I myself am a bigger man than most on here and have to say congrats to central. Our young men of Belfry played a very good game. Coach Haywood and staff have built a very good program here and its all about hard work, respect and first class. As an X Belfry Pirate football player and now a fan I to still have respect for all other teams and consider myself a first class guy. I know what these young men are going threw today I played in 2 back to back 3a championships and came up short in the end at Belfry. But looking back on it now its a very proud statement we made back then. Our program of football and player are going no wheres. We will be back and second place is not such a bad thing. I have to say this as for the young kicker he should have not been in such a big game. I had a bad feeling about it when he took the field. But its in the history books and we most move on, as a Belfry fan I always stand behind Coach Haywood on whatever call he or our staff makes.

[BELLBOBCATS]

I agree with a lot of what you say Bell but Central is not leaps and bounds better, they are just better and that is all that matters. They won their last 4 playoff games by 18 points. That is not a big margin of victory, but victory it is still. Belfry, man to man was just as good. Central did not run by Belfry on the outside with their wideouts. They just make plays more than the teams they play and that is a great attribute. Better they are, but the gap is closer now than it has ever been.

Ok, the gap is closer this year......Belfry and Bell's defense held Central in check for most of the game.....either team could have beaten them. But it didn't happen....the only reason i say leaps and bounds above 3A is the coaching staff. Central imo wasn't as good this year as last year on offense. But the coaching staff at Central found what worked with the team and went with it. Most schools (Bell, Belfry, etc. etc.) will stick with the run it up the middle and that won't work. Load 9 in the box and they will be stopped. Central's coaching staff will find what works for their team, the rest will say to the players, here's what we run and you will go with that. The only team i see out in 3A thats coaching staff will give Central a run for it in the next few years.....Larue County. Give that coaching staff some time to work with the players and you'll see. Imo, your Belfry, Bell and other teams will stick with the same old easy game plan and nothing will change.

[Cat Daddy]

If you can't take it get the he££ off the Internet ! I'll give you $100 American dollars if you come up here & wax my new caddy it's going to be warm today !

Lol. Seriously I am. Wash my new Caddy. wow!!! Another thing I have learned in life is people who brag about having material things are usually people who don't have sh!t. Go run up another credit card bill when you take that trip to the orange bowl.

[Crossbones]

Just waking up from a long and heartbreaking trip. We drove down yesterday morning, watched the games and drove back last night. Congrats once again to Central on another great and hard fought win over the Pirates. You all are the kings of 3A. Thank you again to the Belfry Pirates for another great year of football. You all layed it all on the line and came up short again. Don't settle for second best, work hard, get better and take another shot at the champ.

[red&white]

Ok, the gap is closer this year......Belfry and Bell's defense held Central in check for most of the game.....either team could have beaten them. But it didn't happen....the only reason i say leaps and bounds above 3A is the coaching staff. Central imo wasn't as good this year as last year on offense. But the coaching staff at Central found what worked with the team and went with it. Most schools (Bell, Belfry, etc. etc.) will stick with the run it up the middle and that won't work. Load 9 in the box and they will be stopped. Central's coaching staff will find what works for their team, the rest will say to the players, here's what we run and you will go with that. The only team i see out in 3A thats coaching staff will give Central a run for it in the next few years.....Larue County. Give that coaching staff some time to work with the players and you'll see. Imo, your Belfry, Bell and other teams will stick with the same old easy game plan and nothing will change.

Let see Belfry outgained Central on the ground and in the air looks like it worked. What didnt work? I would say you may not have been at the game because if you had you would see that Belfrys plays were much more than run it up the middle. They even ran more diferent types of plays than central. In the end I believe Belfry could not overcome the speed off the ball that central had.I agree with another post that Messer was a mis match for central and was open on almost every route he ran. Warren could not get the protection he needed to throw the ball at will. I dont think centrals coaching staff out coached Belfrys coaches Central just made the play that won the game in overtime. That said congrats to Central all respect to you and you program. Dont hang you heads Belfry you guys played a tough game. Getting to play in a state championship game is a statement.All can dis us but they all know win or lose they would give anything to play on that big stage. We love you boys and are behind you no matter what!

[Coachdad]

Lol. Seriously I am. Wash my new Caddy. wow!!! Another thing I have learned in life is people who brag about having material things are usually people who don't have sh!t. Go run up another credit card bill when you take that trip to the orange bowl.

I got ca$h !!!!!! & plenty of it ! Obviously you haven't lived long enough if you think everybody lives on plastic & is broke like you ! I have an excellent occupation where I am the boss !
Glad I'm not you !

[Coachdad]

Lol. Seriously I am. Wash my new Caddy. wow!!! Another thing I have learned in life is people who brag about having material things are usually people who don't have sh!t. Go run up another credit card bill when you take that trip to the orange bowl.

Key word usually :not in this case
Ps I haven't said one bad thing about Belfry just the idiots who like to take personal potshots !

[Norm Peterson]

Congrats on another title for Central. Some of your post have me confused though. Last year on a thread asking who on here played in high school and college you posted this:

4 year starter in hs, 2 year starter in college only played those two years.coached hs on & off since 95, son is a d1 player , was top 5 overall in state.

Then you posted this:

4 year varsity starter , football scholly ! 4 year starter in college ,Degree , high school football coach , father of one of The best college linemen in the COUNTRY see ya at the Orange Bowl, stfu everybody doesn't have to be &will not be like you!!!
I'm one of the ones who talks learn to love it or live with it !

So which was it?

[Coachdad]

Lol. Seriously I am. Wash my new Caddy. wow!!! Another thing I have learned in life is people who brag about having material things are usually people who don't have sh!t. Go run up another credit card bill when you take that trip to the orange bowl.

I got ca$h & plenty of it no need to use my credit card. Just because your broke don't mean I am.
All I have to pay for is air fair . We have a timeshare in coral gables been having it for the past 6 years , plenty of friends in Miami , really cool with most of our Miami players families.

[BELLBOBCATS]

Let see Belfry outgained Central on the ground and in the air looks like it worked. What didnt work? I would say you may not have been at the game because if you had you would see that Belfrys plays were much more than run it up the middle. They even ran more diferent types of plays than central. In the end I believe Belfry could not overcome the speed off the ball that central had.I agree with another post that Messer was a mis match for central and was open on almost every route he ran. Warren could not get the protection he needed to throw the ball at will. I dont think centrals coaching staff out coached Belfrys coaches Central just made the play that won the game in overtime. That said congrats to Central all respect to you and you program. Dont hang you heads Belfry you guys played a tough game. Getting to play in a state championship game is a statement.All can dis us but they all know win or lose they would give anything to play on that big stage. We love you boys and are behind you no matter what!

I was at the game. I'm not taking anything away from Belfry, going to the state championship game is a great accomplishment. Being 2nd in 3A is a great accomplishment year in and year out. I didn't see the game opened up from either team. It was basically a grind it out game from both sides, like i said earlier, Centrals offense wasn't as good as last years. But, the coaching staff is the same.....THEY FIND WAYS TO WIN. Centrals team works as a team. They fire off the ball with precision. On defense, awesome defense is all you can say. They fly to the ball. You won't beat them with the same old ground and pound game.
The ultimate thing that shows which team was out coached and out played.......the scoreboard. You can have all the yardage in a game that you want...I'll take the scoreboard 7 days a week as the ultimate thing that shows which team excelled imo.

[Coachdad]

Congrats on another title for Central. Some of your post have me confused though. Last year on a thread asking who on here played in high school and college you posted this:



Then you posted this:



So which was it?

Type O, 4 year

[Coachdad]

Congrats on another title for Central. Some of your post have me confused though. Last year on a thread asking who on here played in high school and college you posted this:



Then you posted this:



So which was it?

What was yours ?

[Coachdad]

Umm I answered your question , now answer mine please & thank you.

[Coachdad]

The only time I have been second string is on this site. No I did not play in the NFL , that will be for my seed.

[Belfry0304]

Really and honestly no one out coached anyone, it was a dead even slugfest but Central made the play. Respect to them for finding a way 4 weeks straight. Time to hit the weights, Pirates. A lot of talent returns.

[AtlPirateFan]

Gotta say it stings (pun intended) this moring. Not because the Pirates lost, there is no shame in losing to Central and putting on what will likely be the best state championship game of the weekend for the 2nd straight year. If Belfry had to lose I wouldn't have it any other way.

I feel sorry for the Seniors of the Belfry team who worked their butts off after the 2010 pounding to prove to everyone they where just as good as Central. I know in the eyes of many they aren't because they never crossed that hump. However in the eyes of this football fan they accomplished every thing they needed to accomplish to prove it to me.

Central is the king of the mountain. They'll be a threat again next year and it's because Scroggins knows what he is doing. I don't know what the Pirates will be returning next year, my source is stinging a bit at the moment so my information flow is limited.

[Norm Peterson]

Type O, 4 year

So if you were a 4 year starter in college why did you say you only played two years in the thread before? It makes a lot of what you say hard to believe when you keep changing all the "facts" about yourself.

As for me I played for 4 years in high school. I played baseball at an NAIA school. I wasn't especially good at either of them but I played hard and had fun. I'm not the father of one of the best offensive linemen in the country. My son is a freshman longsnapper at EKU, but he did start as a true freshman. He's on an academic scholarship.

There is your answer from me, all true and it won't change from thread to thread.

[Coachdad]

To all the " good " belfry fans no need to hang your heads !
On to next year

[Coachdad]

So if you were a 4 year starter in college why did you say you only played two years in the thread before? It makes a lot of what you say hard to believe when you keep changing all the "facts" about yourself.

As for me I played for 4 years in high school. I played baseball at an NAIA school. I wasn't especially good at either of them but I played hard and had fun. I'm not the father of one of the best offensive linemen in the country. My son is a freshman longsnapper at EKU, but he did start as a true freshman. He's on an academic scholarship.

There is your answer from me, all true and it won't change from thread to thread.

Congrats to you & your son , my son is a math major & had 10 d1 offers I know some Belfry fans & they know what I say is true I'm friends with a couple of them on Facebook !
How bout you ?

[Coachdad]

So if you were a 4 year starter in college why did you say you only played two years in the thread before? It makes a lot of what you say hard to believe when you keep changing all the "facts" about yourself.

As for me I played for 4 years in high school. I played baseball at an NAIA school. I wasn't especially good at either of them but I played hard and had fun. I'm not the father of one of the best offensive linemen in the country. My son is a freshman longsnapper at EKU, but he did start as a true freshman. He's on an academic scholarship.

There is your answer from me, all true and it won't change from thread to thread.

Oh I forgot , they have already confirmed this

[BELLBOBCATS]

Really and honestly no one out coached anyone, it was a dead even slugfest but Central made the play. Respect to them for finding a way 4 weeks straight. Time to hit the weights, Pirates. A lot of talent returns.

Here is the point i'm making. Being out coached in 1 game, that can happen to anyone...be it Saban, Holtz or anyone. I'm not saying Haywood was out coached yesterday, he and the rest of the coaches in 3A were outcoached ALL year though by the Central staff.
What i'm saying is this, a football team isn't made in August through December......Its made the day after your season is over for the next year. I'm sure the Belfry players will start today preparing for next season. Some will take a break, some will hit the weight room, some will wait until June or July to make the steps. As a coach you can call plays from the side lines and hope your team is prepared. To be a championship team year after year takes working all year round....players come and go, the coaching staff is the same. The proof is in the State Titles won over the last few years in 3A........and most of those trophys belong to Central....So which team has the better coaching staff?

[Norm Peterson]

Congrats to you & your son , my son is a math major & had 10 d1 offers I know some Belfry fans & they know what I say is true I'm friends with a couple of them on Facebook !
How bout you ?

So why say that you only played 2 years of college in one thread and then switch it to a four year starter in another? You obviously weren't telling the truth in one of the posts.

I'm not from Belfry but I made friends with one of their posters on another high school sports site two years ago when Somerset played them in the semi-finals. Good people and program. The Belfry-Central matchup is turning into one of the best in the state. Congrats on your win.

[Coachdad]

We have a pretty good coaching staff , but in all honesty most talented a/m kids want to play for Central

[Coachdad]

I made a type O , Big fingers & little touch screen buttons

[skully03]

If you want to get technical about it then none of of us can say who has the best staff. No one from belfry really knows what kind of people the coaches from central are and the same hoes for central people knot knowing the belfry coaches. The players are the ones on the field playing 48 min with someone on the sideline telling them what to do. Believe me belfry got out coached on one play this year and last year And everyone knows what plays those are.

[Coachdad]

Plus I already stated that & you asked again.