[TD Hounds]

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/heres-wh...iff-gambit

Very interesting read and explains a lot, Trump is not being the tariff boogeyman he’s trying to undo a lot of carelessness from previous administrations and NAFTA which was a horrible idea from its inception….. A lot of people don’t understand the doomsday we where headed for if someone hadn’t stepped in and done something…..

[Old School Hound]

I emptied by retirement fund when Trump took office . Didn't wait for Trump to empty it. Another good move by OSH!!! Never trust any dumbass who can bankjrupt a casino.

[jetpilot]

I emptied by retirement fund when Trump took office . Didn't wait for Trump to empty it.  Another good move by OSH!!!  Never trust any  dumbass who can bankjrupt a casino.

Smart people are buying stocks in this downturn. The "experts" are always wrong and ALWAYS do opposite of what the sheeple do. BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA sheepie baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

[TD Hounds]

I emptied by retirement fund when Trump took office . Didn't wait for Trump to empty it.  Another good move by OSH!!!  Never trust any  dumbass who can bankjrupt a casino.

So you think with the interests coming do on 6 trillion dollars that Trump should have done what’s been done since Bush was in office borrow more money to prop up the stock market and most most businesses through government funded subsidies, makes sense…. Your comrades in the Soviet Union collapsed due to over printing money that led to red hot inflation and government over regulation sound familiar?

[SEKYFAN]

Not all tariffs are bad, but there should be some type of rhyme or reason for them. Why put them on Vietnam and Cambodia? The manufacturing jobs there are not coming back to the US, All that will happen is prices will go up on clothing, caps, t-shirts, etc. Why tax islands that are virtually uninhabited? I can see raising China's up to 5% or so, not something crazy like was done that caused them to raise the tariffs that will destroy a lot of US farmers, unless the Trump Administration bails them out like they had to the last time he placed tariffs on China. Was anything really gained doing this?

The biggest problem I see with these tariffs is the mixed signals the administration is putting out there on whether they are for negotiation purposes or if they are permanent. Just today on the Sunday news shows, they were contradicting themselves, which really caused the Stock Market to have it's 2 worst consecutives days since 2019.

[jetpilot]

Not all tariffs are bad, but there should be some type of rhyme or reason for them.  Why put them on Vietnam and Cambodia?  The manufacturing jobs there are not coming back to the US,  All that will happen is prices will go up on clothing, caps, t-shirts, etc.  Why tax islands that are virtually uninhabited?  I can see raising China's up to 5% or so, not something crazy like was done that caused them to raise the tariffs that will destroy a lot of US farmers, unless the Trump Administration bails them out like they had to the last time he placed tariffs on China.  Was anything really gained doing this?

The biggest problem I see with these tariffs is the mixed signals the administration is putting out there on whether they are for negotiation purposes or if they are permanent.  Just today on the Sunday news shows, they were contradicting themselves, which really caused the Stock Market to have it's 2 worst consecutives days since 2019.

All of this is dumb, for reasons too many to count. Dems suddenly care about jobs in Vietnam and Cambodia? How dumb is that. Every country on Earth now wanting to negotiate THEIR tariffs with Trump. Don't listen to Democrats, getting all their info (far-left talking points) from Maddow dude and Morning Schmo has turned them into brain-dead psychotics.

[TD Hounds]

Not all tariffs are bad, but there should be some type of rhyme or reason for them.  Why put them on Vietnam and Cambodia?  The manufacturing jobs there are not coming back to the US,  All that will happen is prices will go up on clothing, caps, t-shirts, etc.  Why tax islands that are virtually uninhabited?  I can see raising China's up to 5% or so, not something crazy like was done that caused them to raise the tariffs that will destroy a lot of US farmers, unless the Trump Administration bails them out like they had to the last time he placed tariffs on China.  Was anything really gained doing this?

The biggest problem I see with these tariffs is the mixed signals the administration is putting out there on whether they are for negotiation purposes or if they are permanent.  Just today on the Sunday news shows, they were contradicting themselves, which really caused the Stock Market to have it's 2 worst consecutives days since 2019.

Because China had been using Vietnam and Cambodia to skirt the tariffs….Your already seeing countries coming to the negotiating table particularly India and Japan…. From what I’ve read and what I’ve seen there’s been no contradictions ,your not gonna place high tariffs on American made products and sell things in America tariff free any longer…. Our elected leaders celebrated sending American jobs overseas for decades , now people who can’t pay their student loans back and can’t decide whether they’re men or women want to upend the only person since the 1950’s who’s trying to fix it….. U.S. Steel used to be the biggest and best in the world until politicians where finished with it…. Just one example

[jetpilot]

Not all tariffs are bad, but there should be some type of rhyme or reason for them.  Why put them on Vietnam and Cambodia?  The manufacturing jobs there are not coming back to the US,  All that will happen is prices will go up on clothing, caps, t-shirts, etc.  Why tax islands that are virtually uninhabited?  I can see raising China's up to 5% or so, not something crazy like was done that caused them to raise the tariffs that will destroy a lot of US farmers, unless the Trump Administration bails them out like they had to the last time he placed tariffs on China.  Was anything really gained doing this?

The biggest problem I see with these tariffs is the mixed signals the administration is putting out there on whether they are for negotiation purposes or if they are permanent.  Just today on the Sunday news shows, they were contradicting themselves, which really caused the Stock Market to have it's 2 worst consecutives days since 2019.

Because China had been using Vietnam and Cambodia to skirt the tariffs….Your already seeing countries coming to the negotiating table particularly India and Japan…. From what I’ve read and what I’ve seen there’s been no contradictions ,your not gonna place high tariffs on American made products and sell things in America tariff free any longer…. Our elected leaders celebrated sending American jobs overseas for decades , now people who can’t pay their student loans back and can’t decide whether they’re men or women want to upend the only person since the 1950’s who’s trying to fix it….. U.S. Steel used to be the biggest and best in the world until politicians where finished with it…. Just one example

1000% correct but libtards can't process it because it's not on MSNBC. And we have a guy on here that has never disagreed with any far-left propaganda talking point and never said one bad word about any Democrat who proudly swears he's a critical thinker LMBO...Wasting your time trying to engage these people. But what about Vietnam and Cambodia jobs LMBO, doesn't get any dumber for many reasons...

[jetpilot]

Cernovich
@Cernovich
·
5m
If trade wars are bad, why is everyone but us fighting them? For decades.

To ask this question is to expose the lairs and frauds.

Trump didn’t start this, but he’s going to finish it!

[jetpilot]

Lifelong Democrat billionaire:

Bill Ackman

@BillAckman
·
4h
The country is 100% behind the president on fixing a global system of tariffs that has disadvantaged the country. But, business is a confidence game and confidence depends on trust.

President
@realDonaldTrump
has elevated the tariff issue to the most important geopolitical issue in the world, and he has gotten everyone’s attention. So far, so good.

And yes, other nations have taken advantage of the U.S. by protecting their home industries at the expense of millions of our jobs and economic growth in our country.

But, by placing massive and disproportionate tariffs on our friends and our enemies alike and thereby launching a global economic war against the whole world at once, we are in the process of destroying confidence in our country as a trading partner, as a place to do business, and as a market to invest capital.

The president has an opportunity to call a 90-day time out, negotiate and resolve unfair asymmetric tariff deals, and induce trillions of dollars of new investment in our country.

If, on the other hand, on April 9th we launch economic nuclear war on every country in the world, business investment will grind to a halt, consumers will close their wallets and pocket books, and we will severely damage our reputation with the rest of the world that will take years and potentially decades to rehabilitate.

What CEO and what board of directors will be comfortable making large,
long-term, economic commitments in our country in the middle of an economic nuclear war?

I don’t know of one who will do so.

When markets crash, new investment stops, consumers stop spending money, and businesses have no choice but to curtail investment and fire workers.

And it is not just the big companies that will suffer. Small and medium size businesses and entrepreneurs will experience much greater pain. Almost no business can pass through an overnight massive increase in costs to their customers. And that’s true even if they have no debt, and, unfortunately, there is a massive amount of leverage in the system.

Business is a confidence game. The president is losing the confidence of business leaders around the globe. The consequences for our country and the millions of our citizens who have supported the president — in particular low-income consumers who are already under a huge amount of economic stress — are going to be severely negative. This is not what we voted for.

The President has an opportunity on Monday to call a time out and have the time to execute on fixing an unfair tariff system.

Alternatively, we are heading for a self-induced, economic nuclear winter, and we should start hunkering down.

May cooler heads prevail.

[jetpilot]

Lifelong Democrat billionaire:

Bill Ackman

@BillAckman
·
4h
The country is 100% behind the president on fixing a global system of tariffs that has disadvantaged the country. But, business is a confidence game and confidence depends on trust.

President
@realDonaldTrump
has elevated the tariff issue to the most important geopolitical issue in the world, and he has gotten everyone’s attention. So far, so good.

And yes, other nations have taken advantage of the U.S. by protecting their home industries at the expense of millions of our jobs and economic growth in our country.

But, by placing massive and disproportionate tariffs on our friends and our enemies alike and thereby launching a global economic war against the whole world at once, we are in the process of destroying confidence in our country as a trading partner, as a place to do business, and as a market to invest capital.

The president has an opportunity to call a 90-day time out, negotiate and resolve unfair asymmetric tariff deals, and induce trillions of dollars of new investment in our country.

If, on the other hand, on April 9th we launch economic nuclear war on every country in the world, business investment will grind to a halt, consumers will close their wallets and pocket books, and we will severely damage our reputation with the rest of the world that will take years and potentially decades to rehabilitate.

What CEO and what board of directors will be comfortable making large, 
long-term, economic commitments in our country in the middle of an economic nuclear war?

I don’t know of one who will do so.

When markets crash, new investment stops, consumers stop spending money, and businesses have no choice but to curtail investment and fire workers.

And it is not just the big companies that will suffer. Small and medium size businesses and entrepreneurs will experience much greater pain. Almost no business can pass through an overnight massive increase in costs to their customers. And that’s true even if they have no debt, and, unfortunately, there is a massive amount of leverage in the system.

Business is a confidence game. The president is losing the confidence of business leaders around the globe. The consequences for our country and the millions of our citizens who have supported the president — in particular low-income consumers who are already under a huge amount of economic stress — are going to be severely negative. This is not what we voted for.

The President has an opportunity on Monday to call a time out and have the time to execute on fixing an unfair tariff system.

Alternatively, we are heading for a self-induced, economic nuclear winter, and we should start hunkering down.

May cooler heads prevail.

Disagree with the bolded. Nobody on Earth wants to lose the US consumer $$$$$$$$$$$$$.

[jetpilot]

dp

[SEKYFAN]

Apparently Musk is not a believer in this tariff strategy...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...c0f&ei=136

In a Saturday X post, the Tesla CEO ripped Peter Navarro as someone who “ain’t built s--t” and shaded his Harvard PhD in economics as “a bad thing, not a good thing.”

Musk, who’s openly expressed disdain for Ivy League institutions, commented, “yup” under a quote from U.S. economist Thomas Sowell that read: “In every disaster throughout American history, there always seems to be a man from Harvard in the middle of it.”

He also seemed to suggest that Navarro had an excess of self-confidence and dearth of actual intelligence, writing “results in the ego/brains>> 1 problem.”

[Hoot Gibson]

Communists and fake, allegedly former Republicans, cannot help themselves from exposing their deep-seated groupthink mental defect. They cannot fathom the concept of people finding common ground to work toward a shared vision, while openly disagreeing with one another on other issues on which common ground may be missing. While Musk and many conservatives are not sold on tariffs as a compelling path toward economic prosperity, he also understands that U.S. fiscal and regulatory policies of the past few decades are existential threats to the American way of life.

I honestly never believed that either major political party would make serious efforts to reduce budget deficits and make meaningful reforms before hyperinflation eventually destroyed our economic system. Whether Trump's efforts succeed or not, he is making the first serious effort to save this country from its own federal government in the past 60 years. Elon Musk has played a key role in those reforms, regardless of his position on tariffs.

[TD Hounds]

Apparently Musk is not a believer in this tariff strategy...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...c0f&ei=136

In a Saturday X post, the Tesla CEO ripped Peter Navarro as someone who “ain’t built s--t” and shaded his Harvard PhD in economics as “a bad thing, not a good thing.”

Musk, who’s openly expressed disdain for Ivy League institutions, commented, “yup” under a quote from U.S. economist Thomas Sowell that read: “In every disaster throughout American history, there always seems to be a man from Harvard in the middle of it.”

He also seemed to suggest that Navarro had an excess of self-confidence and dearth of actual intelligence, writing “results in the ego/brains>> 1 problem.”

Imagine that the best MSN has to offer…. So since Musk is on board are the insurrectionist and xenophobes going to stop destroying Tesla vehicles and fire bombing dealerships?

[TD Hounds]

Apparently Musk is not a believer in this tariff strategy...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...c0f&ei=136

In a Saturday X post, the Tesla CEO ripped Peter Navarro as someone who “ain’t built s--t” and shaded his Harvard PhD in economics as “a bad thing, not a good thing.”

Musk, who’s openly expressed disdain for Ivy League institutions, commented, “yup” under a quote from U.S. economist Thomas Sowell that read: “In every disaster throughout American history, there always seems to be a man from Harvard in the middle of it.”

He also seemed to suggest that Navarro had an excess of self-confidence and dearth of actual intelligence, writing “results in the ego/brains>> 1 problem.”

Imagine that the best MSN has to offer…. So since Musk is on board are the insurrectionist and xenophobes going to stop destroying Tesla vehicles and fire bombing dealerships?

https://www.foxbusiness.com/video/6371132408112

So Trump is an averting a credit crisis….Wonder if MSN is covering this?

[SEKYFAN]

Apparently Musk is not a believer in this tariff strategy...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...c0f&ei=136

In a Saturday X post, the Tesla CEO ripped Peter Navarro as someone who “ain’t built s--t” and shaded his Harvard PhD in economics as “a bad thing, not a good thing.”

Musk, who’s openly expressed disdain for Ivy League institutions, commented, “yup” under a quote from U.S. economist Thomas Sowell that read: “In every disaster throughout American history, there always seems to be a man from Harvard in the middle of it.”

He also seemed to suggest that Navarro had an excess of self-confidence and dearth of actual intelligence, writing “results in the ego/brains>> 1 problem.”

Imagine that the best MSN has to offer…. So since Musk is on board are the insurrectionist and xenophobes going to stop destroying Tesla vehicles and fire bombing dealerships?

https://www.foxbusiness.com/video/6371132408112

So Trump is an averting a credit crisis….Wonder if MSN is covering this?

Unfortunately, Fox has been turned into nothing more than a propaganda source for the most part, and had to fork over close to a billion dollars because of it.  The stories on MSN come from multiple outlets, which is a totally different animal than what Fox News is supposed to be.  So why attack MSN, when all they did was quote a couple of posts from Musk's own business.  I fail to see the reasoning.

Can you explain rationally how people damaging Teslas and dealerships equate to an insurrection?

[TD Hounds]

Apparently Musk is not a believer in this tariff strategy...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...c0f&ei=136

In a Saturday X post, the Tesla CEO ripped Peter Navarro as someone who “ain’t built s--t” and shaded his Harvard PhD in economics as “a bad thing, not a good thing.”

Musk, who’s openly expressed disdain for Ivy League institutions, commented, “yup” under a quote from U.S. economist Thomas Sowell that read: “In every disaster throughout American history, there always seems to be a man from Harvard in the middle of it.”

He also seemed to suggest that Navarro had an excess of self-confidence and dearth of actual intelligence, writing “results in the ego/brains>> 1 problem.”

Imagine that the best MSN has to offer…. So since Musk is on board are the insurrectionist and xenophobes going to stop destroying Tesla vehicles and fire bombing dealerships?

https://www.foxbusiness.com/video/6371132408112

So Trump is an averting a credit crisis….Wonder if MSN is covering this?

Unfortunately, Fox has been turned into nothing more than a propaganda source for the most part, and had to fork over close to a billion dollars because of it.  The stories on MSN come from multiple outlets, which is a totally different animal than what Fox News is supposed to be.  So why attack MSN, when all they did was quote a couple of posts from Musk's own business.  I fail to see the reasoning.

Can you explain rationally how people damaging Teslas and dealerships equate to an insurrection?

I’ll admit Fox News, it’s pretty common knowledge, tends to lean right but no more than MSN’s sources lean left and MSN’s outlets have been sued multiple times from calling a doctor a uterus collector, to Stephanopolous’s payout to the Trump Presidential library etc…. Calling MSN neutral in politics is akin to saying you are as well….

Insurrection- a violent uprising against an authority or government.  All of the acts of aggression towards Tesla are in relation to Musk’s position as Chief of Doge would you not consider what’s happening to Tesla vehicles and dealerships a violent uprising due to his position in government?

[SEKYFAN]

Trump is not stupid, he will not keep these tariffs in place much longer in my opinion.  He sees what the uncertainty is doing to the economy and will claim that most of the Countries gave in to his demands and declare victory.  That's just his M.O.  Hopefully not much permanent damage will be felt by the economy going forward.

It seems to me that the US should have trade deficits with most countries anyway.  We had a growing economy coming into this year and the US has much more wealth than most, so it just seems to me that naturally the US would be spending more since they have much more to spend.  Maybe that's too simplistic, but like the Lynyrd Skynrd song, I'm just a  simple man.

[TD Hounds]

Trump is not stupid, he will not keep these tariffs in place much longer in my opinion.  He sees what the uncertainty is doing to the economy and will claim that most of the Countries gave in to his demands and declare victory.  That's just his M.O.  Hopefully not much permanent damage will be felt by the economy going forward.

It seems to me that the US should have trade deficits with most countries anyway.  We had a growing economy coming into this year and the US has much more wealth than most, so it just seems to me that naturally the US would be spending more since they have much more to spend.  Maybe that's too simplistic, but like the Lynyrd Skynrd song, I'm just a  simple man.

If Trump doesn’t keep them in place much longer it will be because countries have negotiated terms to have them nullified or reduced…. Dear Lord do you understand we are 36 trillion in debt and our national debt to GDP ration is well over 100% meaning that unless Trump fixes our trade deficit and brings back manufacturing there’s no way we can EVER repay the money we owe… Your heart maybe in the right place I absolutely don’t think your a bad person but I absolutely wonder what reality your living in 36 trillion which is almost 130% of our GDP and we should have trade deficits….. There’s no country in the world that is living with as much debt as we are and guess who owns the majority of our debt, the very countries you want a trade deficit with….

[TheRealThing]

America has outsourced way too much to other countries, thereby making us dependent on other countries. Does anybody really believe we should literally door dash everything from antibiotics to military hardware from the likes of sworn enemies like China? 

When one makes a deal with the Devil he loses everything, including his soul. Now, getting out of that deal will take a little chin. But everything Trump said about his detractors during his first term turned out to be the truth. History and the record witnesses the success of his economic policy, and the same record confirms that we've been here before. 

Other than OSH and the other progressives on here, I say give the man a chance. 

[TD Hounds]

Trump is not stupid, he will not keep these tariffs in place much longer in my opinion.  He sees what the uncertainty is doing to the economy and will claim that most of the Countries gave in to his demands and declare victory.  That's just his M.O.  Hopefully not much permanent damage will be felt by the economy going forward.

It seems to me that the US should have trade deficits with most countries anyway.  We had a growing economy coming into this year and the US has much more wealth than most, so it just seems to me that naturally the US would be spending more since they have much more to spend.  Maybe that's too simplistic, but like the Lynyrd Skynrd song, I'm just a  simple man.

If Trump doesn’t keep them in place much longer it will be because countries have negotiated terms to have them nullified or reduced…. Dear Lord do you understand we are 36 trillion in debt and our national debt to GDP ration is well over 100% meaning that unless Trump fixes our trade deficit and brings back manufacturing there’s no way we can EVER repay the money we owe… Your heart maybe in the right place I absolutely don’t think your a bad person but I absolutely wonder what reality your living in 36 trillion which is almost 130% of our GDP and we should have trade deficits….. There’s no country in the world that is living with as much debt as we are and guess who owns the majority of our debt, the very countries you want a trade deficit with….

America has outsourced way too much to other countries, thereby making us dependent on other countries. Does anybody really believe we should literally door dash everything from antibiotics to military hardware from the likes of sworn enemies like China? 

When one makes a deal with the Devil he loses everything, including his soul. Now, getting out of that deal will take a little chin. But everything Trump said about his detractors during his first term turned out to be the truth. History and the record witnesses the success of his economic policy, and the same record confirms that we've been here before. 

Other than OSH and the other progressives on here, I say give the man a chance. 

People from both sides of the isle forget patience is a virtue…..Biden gets a pass from the left for creating some of the worst inflation in history and propping up the stock market with build back better, yet Trump is ostracized for the stock market taking a deep turn for a week when he’s trying to keep us from going bankrupt….. Bottom line Dems are pissed he’s stopped their goals for globalization and the Socialist States of America in its tracks day one……

[jetpilot]

This is what I voted for.

[TheRealThing]

I hope TD Hounds is right and Trump's policies have for the time being stopped globalism in it's tracks. Globalism is the embodiment of the spirit of Antichrist, and the seat therefore of the one world government to come. And without getting into all the mechanics let's just quote the old axiom. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

One reason I appreciate Trump so much is because he has steadfastly advocated that the power of government must remain in the hands of the people. When the machinations of government are not transparent you get corruption such as 9.9 million fictitious people over the age of 120 drawing Social Security checks. I heard on the news last night that DOGE has to date, exposed one and a half trillion in waste and fraud.

[SEKYFAN]

Trump is not stupid, he will not keep these tariffs in place much longer in my opinion.  He sees what the uncertainty is doing to the economy and will claim that most of the Countries gave in to his demands and declare victory.  That's just his M.O.  Hopefully not much permanent damage will be felt by the economy going forward.

It seems to me that the US should have trade deficits with most countries anyway.  We had a growing economy coming into this year and the US has much more wealth than most, so it just seems to me that naturally the US would be spending more since they have much more to spend.  Maybe that's too simplistic, but like the Lynyrd Skynrd song, I'm just a  simple man.

If Trump doesn’t keep them in place much longer it will be because countries have negotiated terms to have them nullified or reduced…. Dear Lord do you understand we are 36 trillion in debt and our national debt to GDP ration is well over 100% meaning that unless Trump fixes our trade deficit and brings back manufacturing there’s no way we can EVER repay the money we owe… Your heart maybe in the right place I absolutely don’t think your a bad person but I absolutely wonder what reality your living in 36 trillion which is almost 130% of our GDP and we should have trade deficits….. There’s no country in the world that is living with as much debt as we are and guess who owns the majority of our debt, the very countries you want a trade deficit with….

I believe you are mistaken that the trade deficit has a correlation to the national debt.  The national debt is to be blamed on politicians from both parties who cannot balance a budget.  They need to cut spending and increase revenue, which they simply can't seem to do because of all the special interest groups, lobbyist, etc. that they are beholden to. 

Our last 2 Presidents are the biggest culprits of the deficit and I'm not expecting it to get any better over the next 4 years.

[TD Hounds]

Trump is not stupid, he will not keep these tariffs in place much longer in my opinion.  He sees what the uncertainty is doing to the economy and will claim that most of the Countries gave in to his demands and declare victory.  That's just his M.O.  Hopefully not much permanent damage will be felt by the economy going forward.

It seems to me that the US should have trade deficits with most countries anyway.  We had a growing economy coming into this year and the US has much more wealth than most, so it just seems to me that naturally the US would be spending more since they have much more to spend.  Maybe that's too simplistic, but like the Lynyrd Skynrd song, I'm just a  simple man.

If Trump doesn’t keep them in place much longer it will be because countries have negotiated terms to have them nullified or reduced…. Dear Lord do you understand we are 36 trillion in debt and our national debt to GDP ration is well over 100% meaning that unless Trump fixes our trade deficit and brings back manufacturing there’s no way we can EVER repay the money we owe… Your heart maybe in the right place I absolutely don’t think your a bad person but I absolutely wonder what reality your living in 36 trillion which is almost 130% of our GDP and we should have trade deficits….. There’s no country in the world that is living with as much debt as we are and guess who owns the majority of our debt, the very countries you want a trade deficit with….

I believe you are mistaken that the trade deficit has a correlation to the national debt.  The national debt is to be blamed on politicians from both parties who cannot balance a budget.  They need to cut spending and increase revenue, which they simply can't seem to do because of all the special interest groups, lobbyist, etc. that they are beholden to. 

Our last 2 Presidents are the biggest culprits of the deficit and I'm not expecting it to get any better over the next 4 years.

 Did you even try and research or google it to make sure you weren’t wrong? Of course not….The correlation comes through the GDP, I’m not going over it again because obviously you didn’t get it the first time your not gonna get it the second time because it’s what you believe, thats the problem…..And it doesn’t really matter, in your fantasy land we’re so rich we should do nothing but pump hugs, kisses, and fist bumps everywhere no matter the costs…..And your wrong Obama was more responsible for the national debt soaring than either Trump or Biden….

[SEKYFAN]

Trump is not stupid, he will not keep these tariffs in place much longer in my opinion.  He sees what the uncertainty is doing to the economy and will claim that most of the Countries gave in to his demands and declare victory.  That's just his M.O.  Hopefully not much permanent damage will be felt by the economy going forward.

It seems to me that the US should have trade deficits with most countries anyway.  We had a growing economy coming into this year and the US has much more wealth than most, so it just seems to me that naturally the US would be spending more since they have much more to spend.  Maybe that's too simplistic, but like the Lynyrd Skynrd song, I'm just a  simple man.

If Trump doesn’t keep them in place much longer it will be because countries have negotiated terms to have them nullified or reduced…. Dear Lord do you understand we are 36 trillion in debt and our national debt to GDP ration is well over 100% meaning that unless Trump fixes our trade deficit and brings back manufacturing there’s no way we can EVER repay the money we owe… Your heart maybe in the right place I absolutely don’t think your a bad person but I absolutely wonder what reality your living in 36 trillion which is almost 130% of our GDP and we should have trade deficits….. There’s no country in the world that is living with as much debt as we are and guess who owns the majority of our debt, the very countries you want a trade deficit with….

I believe you are mistaken that the trade deficit has a correlation to the national debt.  The national debt is to be blamed on politicians from both parties who cannot balance a budget.  They need to cut spending and increase revenue, which they simply can't seem to do because of all the special interest groups, lobbyist, etc. that they are beholden to. 

Our last 2 Presidents are the biggest culprits of the deficit and I'm not expecting it to get any better over the next 4 years.

 Did you even try and research or google it to make sure you weren’t wrong? Of course not….The correlation comes through the GDP, I’m not going over it again because obviously you didn’t get it the first time your not gonna get it the second time because it’s what you believe, thats the problem…..And it doesn’t really matter, in your fantasy land we’re so rich we should do nothing but pump hugs, kisses, and fist bumps everywhere no matter the costs…..And your wrong Obama was more responsible for the national debt soaring than either Trump or Biden….

You're right in that I didn't research it at all.  I realize that it is a part of the equation, I just don't think it's a big part.  It's my opinion that Politicians are the problem.  Rand Paul may be the only one in Washington who understands fiscal responsibility well enough to be able to tackle the deficit, but he would have my vote because it may be the greatest danger facing the US going forward.  

I may have to look into Obama and the deficit when I have time, but it seems like everything that I have seen over the past 2-3 years has Biden & Trump adding more to the deficit than anyone prior.  Again, I'm going on memory, and the older I get the worse it seems to betray me, although I'm not nearly as old as our last 2 Potus have been.

[TD Hounds]

Trump is not stupid, he will not keep these tariffs in place much longer in my opinion.  He sees what the uncertainty is doing to the economy and will claim that most of the Countries gave in to his demands and declare victory.  That's just his M.O.  Hopefully not much permanent damage will be felt by the economy going forward.

It seems to me that the US should have trade deficits with most countries anyway.  We had a growing economy coming into this year and the US has much more wealth than most, so it just seems to me that naturally the US would be spending more since they have much more to spend.  Maybe that's too simplistic, but like the Lynyrd Skynrd song, I'm just a  simple man.

If Trump doesn’t keep them in place much longer it will be because countries have negotiated terms to have them nullified or reduced…. Dear Lord do you understand we are 36 trillion in debt and our national debt to GDP ration is well over 100% meaning that unless Trump fixes our trade deficit and brings back manufacturing there’s no way we can EVER repay the money we owe… Your heart maybe in the right place I absolutely don’t think your a bad person but I absolutely wonder what reality your living in 36 trillion which is almost 130% of our GDP and we should have trade deficits….. There’s no country in the world that is living with as much debt as we are and guess who owns the majority of our debt, the very countries you want a trade deficit with….

I believe you are mistaken that the trade deficit has a correlation to the national debt.  The national debt is to be blamed on politicians from both parties who cannot balance a budget.  They need to cut spending and increase revenue, which they simply can't seem to do because of all the special interest groups, lobbyist, etc. that they are beholden to. 

Our last 2 Presidents are the biggest culprits of the deficit and I'm not expecting it to get any better over the next 4 years.

 Did you even try and research or google it to make sure you weren’t wrong? Of course not….The correlation comes through the GDP, I’m not going over it again because obviously you didn’t get it the first time your not gonna get it the second time because it’s what you believe, thats the problem…..And it doesn’t really matter, in your fantasy land we’re so rich we should do nothing but pump hugs, kisses, and fist bumps everywhere no matter the costs…..And your wrong Obama was more responsible for the national debt soaring than either Trump or Biden….

You're right in that I didn't research it at all.  I realize that it is a part of the equation, I just don't think it's a big part.  It's my opinion that Politicians are the problem.  Rand Paul may be the only one in Washington who understands fiscal responsibility well enough to be able to tackle the deficit, but he would have my vote because it may be the greatest danger facing the US going forward.  

I may have to look into Obama and the deficit when I have time, but it seems like everything that I have seen over the past 2-3 years has Biden & Trump adding more to the deficit than anyone prior.  Again, I'm going on memory, and the older I get the worse it seems to betray me, although I'm not nearly as old as our last 2 Potus have been.

Then you’d be wrong again, if you notice The Real Thing understood exactly what I was talking about with GDP and our national debt….. Yes politicians are the problem but not for the reasons your thinking, they’ve created this problem with their march towards globalization and sending as much of our industrial power as possible to other countries…. Of course they have no fiscal restraint but the country isn’t taking in the tax revenue it should be with all the industrialization lost…. It’s the biggest reason they hate Trump he calls them out for passing NAFTA and he’s not going along with the plans for globalization at all…..

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New consumer sentiment data just out for April:

Americans’ expectations for how the economy will fare over the next year are now at their worst in 45 years.

Consumer confidence is down 40% since Trump’s inauguration, including a 20% drop among Republicans.


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