[oldhound70s]

^
nicker:

Sure.

Wow Gut you sound a little bitter. Don't have sour grapes because Dudley snubbed Whitley. All I'm saying is I doubt Corbin will hire someone who thinks more of himself than the program. Heck, I would love to have Dudley but I don't think our administration would hire him if he wasn't teaching. I do think they will go outside the district though. Too much good ole boy system going on. Mike Jackson would be a great hire.:rockon:

[insideinfo]

If Dudley took the Corbin job, I'm not sure this site could handle it. They sure would be some hurt feeling.

[RunItUpTheGut]

Wow Gut you sound a little bitter. Don't have sour grapes because Dudley snubbed Whitley. All I'm saying is I doubt Corbin will hire someone who thinks more of himself than the program. Heck, I would love to have Dudley but I don't think our administration would hire him if he wasn't teaching. I do think they will go outside the district though. Too much good ole boy system going on. Mike Jackson would be a great hire.:rockon:

Not bitter, I didn't even have Dudley in my three choices I told a select few members on this site I think that they would pick. To be honest I think he would be a toxin.
But him going to Corbin? Sorry, it just made me laugh. Hes already confirmed to the UPIKE Admins that hes not going anywhere and just had an interview this weekend about his recruiting class that consist of so many KY players.

Its time to face the facts, your stuck with Jewell until he decides to leave. And I don't see that happening any time soon.

[insideinfo]

Not bitter, I didn't even have Dudley in my three choices I told a select few members on this site I think that they would pick. To be honest I think he would be a toxin.
But him going to Corbin? Sorry, it just made me laugh. Hes already confirmed to the UPIKE Admins that hes not going anywhere and just had an interview this weekend about his recruiting class that consist of so many KY players.

Its time to face the facts, your stuck with Jewell until he decides to leave. And I don't see that happening any time soon.

I could see Jewell taking a Asst. Principle job.Would be good for his retirement.

[oldhound70s]

Not bitter, I didn't even have Dudley in my three choices I told a select few members on this site I think that they would pick. To be honest I think he would be a toxin.
But him going to Corbin? Sorry, it just made me laugh. Hes already confirmed to the UPIKE Admins that hes not going anywhere and just had an interview this weekend about his recruiting class that consist of so many KY players.

Its time to face the facts, your stuck with Jewell until he decides to leave. And I don't see that happening any time soon.

As much as I hate to admit it, you are probabaly right about being stuck with Jewell. I've heard from a good source that Dudley would probably come to Corbin but I'd also heard that the Whitley job was a done deal for him. As far as Dudley not being one of your top 3 picks.....SURE. Now that's funny :biglmao:

[SEKYFAN]

As much as I hate to admit it, you are probabaly right about being stuck with Jewell. I've heard from a good source that Dudley would probably come to Corbin but I'd also heard that the Whitley job was a done deal for him. As far as Dudley not being one of your top 3 picks.....SURE. Now that's funny :biglmao:

There has been someone at Corbin pushing for Hilton for over a year, but I'm just not sure that person has enough pull to get him offered if the job were to open up. The people with the authority to hire will not not have to give in to pressure to hire anyone who is not a fit academically. Football just does not mean that much in their overall vision for the Corbin School System, at least that's the way I see it.

[RunItUpTheGut]

As much as I hate to admit it, you are probabaly right about being stuck with Jewell. I've heard from a good source that Dudley would probably come to Corbin but I'd also heard that the Whitley job was a done deal for him. As far as Dudley not being one of your top 3 picks.....SURE. Now that's funny :biglmao:

Ask granny bear, SOK, or any mod if I had Dudley in my top 3...
I never said I wouldn't take Dudley, but he wasn't in my top 3 picks of who I thought we get.
Go ahead, ask them if he was one of them.

[HAROLD]

In defense of Gut, I've never once heard him say that Dudley was coming or that he would have him in his top 3 at Whitley. Dudley has his traits that would maybe cause people not to be much of a fan of him but the man can coach and I'm sure anyone would love to have him on their sidelines. That doesn't mean he's in anyone's top 3 preferences though.

As for Corbin, Jewell is an excellent coach when it comes to X and O's, however himself and his staff have outsmarted themselves quite a bit. Maybe it's due to being stubborn, maybe it was just a small play call, but there are some games Corbin should've won in the past in which they didn't.

Steve's biggest detriment seems to be his personality. When I say that, don't take it as me saying he is a bad guy. I honestly have nothing but good things to say about Steve, as he has always treated me with respect and spoken when we crossed paths. It's just that he is more of an introvert that keeps to himself. There is nothing at all wrong with that from a personal stand point. However, just like with UK basketball, at Corbin, you need your head coach to be more of an ambassador to the program. That is why I think many aren't very happy with him as the head man for the Hounds when it comes right down to it.

As for any replacements, of course Dudley Hilton would be a great hire but he is getting up there in age and may just be a temporary band-aid. Mike Jackson and Clark Teague are two guys that I think would be solid coaches from a personality standpoint. They are both very likable guys and would get the kids out playing ball. Teague's style may not be a perfect fit and Jackson may be a bit better at X and O's but I couldn't see any arguing with either hire.

As much as I thought of Coach Whitaker, Cotton Adams should have never been ran out as the Coach of Corbin. To this day, I will swear that the Whitaker hire was made simply in hopes of bringing Tim Couch to Corbin. While that was very close to happening, Cotton should've never left or been forced out. The talent dipped a bit and it gave the powers that be an excuse to let Cotton get away but as we saw in 1996, Corbin was loaded. There is no doubt that Cotton Adams would've won a title with that bunch.

[oldhound70s]

In defense of Gut, I've never once heard him say that Dudley was coming or that he would have him in his top 3 at Whitley. Dudley has his traits that would maybe cause people not to be much of a fan of him but the man can coach and I'm sure anyone would love to have him on their sidelines. That doesn't mean he's in anyone's top 3 preferences though.

As for Corbin, Jewell is an excellent coach when it comes to X and O's, however himself and his staff have outsmarted themselves quite a bit. Maybe it's due to being stubborn, maybe it was just a small play call, but there are some games Corbin should've won in the past in which they didn't.

Steve's biggest detriment seems to be his personality. When I say that, don't take it as me saying he is a bad guy. I honestly have nothing but good things to say about Steve, as he has always treated me with respect and spoken when we crossed paths. It's just that he is more of an introvert that keeps to himself.

There is nothing at all wrong with that from a personal stand point. However, just like with UK basketball, at Corbin, you need your head coach to be more of an ambassador to the program. That is why I think many aren't very happy with him as the head man for the Hounds when it comes right down to it.

As for any replacements, of course Dudley Hilton would be a great hire but he is getting up there in age and may just be a temporary band-aid. Mike Jackson and Clark Teague are two guys that I think would be solid coaches from a personality standpoint. They are both very likable guys and would get the kids out playing ball. Teague's style may not be a perfect fit and Jackson may be a bit better at X and O's but I couldn't see any arguing with either hire.

As much as I thought of Coach Whitaker, Cotton Adams should have never been ran out as the Coach of Corbin. To this day, I will swear that the Whitaker hire was made simply in hopes of bringing Tim Couch to Corbin. While that was very close to happening, Cotton should've never left or been forced out. The talent dipped a bit and it gave the powers that be an excuse to let Cotton get away but as we saw in 1996, Corbin was loaded. There is no doubt that Cotton Adams would've won a title with that bunch.

I agree with most of what you say to a degree. I never saw a post where Gut was pushing for Hilton but just like us Corbin fans I'm sure he would be excited to get him. Sorry if I offended you Gut.

Dudley really doesn't matter though. What matters is whether Jewell is moving on and if so, who will we get. It is time for him to go and like most with 10 plus years (not all) he has ran his course. As a person, I agree Steve is a good person but that doesn't negate the fact that the kids don't like him and when they leave Corbin most all will tell you it was not a good four years. Farris is a big part of the problem and he is toxic. Not much good I can say about him. In addition, what happened when the Jewell boys (cousins) were playing should have got Steve and his whole staff fired. Anybody who witnessed the season two years ago can tell just you how much favoritism was played and who was either carrying or catching the ball. Those two are hard nosed kids but in no way were they the best athletes on the field. Their daddy's took care of them and shunned much better athletes. Fast forward to this year and you'll see a ton of examples where Willard wouldn't play kids because he didn't like the parent or he played cards with the parent that got to play. Our offense was the most one dimensional you've ever seen and many kids were never given a chance. (One reason we have kids leaving) The Bell Co game was a prime example of how his negativity destroyed the team. For two weeks after the Wayne Co game he harped on the kids and blamed them for the loss. Their effort showed (bell game) the affect of the negative reinforcement they received. Those kids played their tails off in the first Wayne game and if it wasn't for Willard and his play calling they probably would have won that game. Jewell is simply closed minded and very negative about everything. Corbin football is no longer a good environment. It's that simple!!! I sickens me because I have to witness it another year. Corbin has to probably witness it until the youngest son graduates. Get ready Corbin you will see him get a lot of touches next year while others much better stand and watch or transfer out.

I totally agree that the coach should be an ambassador to the program and inspire the student athletes. Instead we have someone who distances himself from everyone and bullies the players. :HitWall:

With all that said, who do you think would be a good hire should Jewell become the asst principal?

[cherokee]

I agree with most of what you say to a degree. I never saw a post where Gut was pushing for Hilton but just like us Corbin fans I'm sure he would be excited to get him. Sorry if I offended you Gut.

Dudley really doesn't matter though. What matters is whether Jewell is moving on and if so, who will we get. It is time for him to go and like most with 10 plus years (not all) he has ran his course. As a person, I agree Steve is a good person but that doesn't negate the fact that the kids don't like him and when they leave Corbin most all will tell you it was not a good four years. Farris is a big part of the problem and he is toxic. Not much good I can say about him. In addition, what happened when the Jewell boys (cousins) were playing should have got Steve and his whole staff fired. Anybody who witnessed the season two years ago can tell just you how much favoritism was played and who was either carrying or catching the ball. Those two are hard nosed kids but in no way were they the best athletes on the field. Their daddy's took care of them and shunned much better athletes. Fast forward to this year and you'll see a ton of examples where Willard wouldn't play kids because he didn't like the parent or he played cards with the parent that got to play. Our offense was the most one dimensional you've ever seen and many kids were never given a chance. (One reason we have kids leaving) The Bell Co game was a prime example of how his negativity destroyed the team. For two weeks after the Wayne Co game he harped on the kids and blamed them for the loss. Their effort showed (bell game) the affect of the negative reinforcement they received. Those kids played their tails off in the first Wayne game and if it wasn't for Willard and his play calling they probably would have won that game. Jewell is simply closed minded and very negative about everything. Corbin football is no longer a good environment. It's that simple!!! I sickens me because I have to witness it another year. Corbin has to probably witness it until the youngest son graduates. Get ready Corbin you will see him get a lot of touches next year while others much better stand and watch or transfer out.

I totally agree that the coach should be an ambassador to the program and inspire the student athletes. Instead we have someone who distances himself from everyone and bullies the players. :HitWall:

With all that said, who do you think would be a good hire should Jewell become the asst principal?

Truer words were never spoken, DADDY BALL at its finest 1982 is along time ago, the fire and respect is gone. Tradition does't take a 32 year break and the moving up in class has made the road a lot harder as Corbin has not won a district since moving to 3a, and finishing 3rd has become a norm in the district while your middle school teams winning state championships over and over. I don 't need a degree from Corbin to figure this one out, and neither does the administration, they just don't care no more about football.

[RunItUpTheGut]

In defense of Gut, I've never once heard him say that Dudley was coming or that he would have him in his top 3 at Whitley. Dudley has his traits that would maybe cause people not to be much of a fan of him but the man can coach and I'm sure anyone would love to have him on their sidelines. That doesn't mean he's in anyone's top 3 preferences though.

As for Corbin, Jewell is an excellent coach when it comes to X and O's, however himself and his staff have outsmarted themselves quite a bit. Maybe it's due to being stubborn, maybe it was just a small play call, but there are some games Corbin should've won in the past in which they didn't.

Steve's biggest detriment seems to be his personality. When I say that, don't take it as me saying he is a bad guy. I honestly have nothing but good things to say about Steve, as he has always treated me with respect and spoken when we crossed paths. It's just that he is more of an introvert that keeps to himself. There is nothing at all wrong with that from a personal stand point. However, just like with UK basketball, at Corbin, you need your head coach to be more of an ambassador to the program. That is why I think many aren't very happy with him as the head man for the Hounds when it comes right down to it.

As for any replacements, of course Dudley Hilton would be a great hire but he is getting up there in age and may just be a temporary band-aid. Mike Jackson and Clark Teague are two guys that I think would be solid coaches from a personality standpoint. They are both very likable guys and would get the kids out playing ball. Teague's style may not be a perfect fit and Jackson may be a bit better at X and O's but I couldn't see any arguing with either hire.

As much as I thought of Coach Whitaker, Cotton Adams should have never been ran out as the Coach of Corbin. To this day, I will swear that the Whitaker hire was made simply in hopes of bringing Tim Couch to Corbin. While that was very close to happening, Cotton should've never left or been forced out. The talent dipped a bit and it gave the powers that be an excuse to let Cotton get away but as we saw in 1996, Corbin was loaded. There is no doubt that Cotton Adams would've won a title with that bunch.

Thanks. I reserved my thoughts on Dudley because if for some out of this world reason he did take the job, I wouldn't look like an idiot, but I don't think hes the right pick.

As for your comments on Corbin, you are spot on. I wasn't kidding when I said Cotton was the greatest football mind in this world, because he is. Great man and teacher as well. I remember when Whitaker came on, as you said, it was all in hopes Couch would follow, and I bet the elder at the Corbin dinner table still wish they wouldn't have made that mistake.

[RunItUpTheGut]

I agree with most of what you say to a degree. I never saw a post where Gut was pushing for Hilton but just like us Corbin fans I'm sure he would be excited to get him. Sorry if I offended you Gut.

Dudley really doesn't matter though. What matters is whether Jewell is moving on and if so, who will we get. It is time for him to go and like most with 10 plus years (not all) he has ran his course. As a person, I agree Steve is a good person but that doesn't negate the fact that the kids don't like him and when they leave Corbin most all will tell you it was not a good four years. Farris is a big part of the problem and he is toxic. Not much good I can say about him. In addition, what happened when the Jewell boys (cousins) were playing should have got Steve and his whole staff fired. Anybody who witnessed the season two years ago can tell just you how much favoritism was played and who was either carrying or catching the ball. Those two are hard nosed kids but in no way were they the best athletes on the field. Their daddy's took care of them and shunned much better athletes. Fast forward to this year and you'll see a ton of examples where Willard wouldn't play kids because he didn't like the parent or he played cards with the parent that got to play. Our offense was the most one dimensional you've ever seen and many kids were never given a chance. (One reason we have kids leaving) The Bell Co game was a prime example of how his negativity destroyed the team. For two weeks after the Wayne Co game he harped on the kids and blamed them for the loss. Their effort showed (bell game) the affect of the negative reinforcement they received. Those kids played their tails off in the first Wayne game and if it wasn't for Willard and his play calling they probably would have won that game. Jewell is simply closed minded and very negative about everything. Corbin football is no longer a good environment. It's that simple!!! I sickens me because I have to witness it another year. Corbin has to probably witness it until the youngest son graduates. Get ready Corbin you will see him get a lot of touches next year while others much better stand and watch or transfer out.

I totally agree that the coach should be an ambassador to the program and inspire the student athletes. Instead we have someone who distances himself from everyone and bullies the players. :HitWall:

With all that said, who do you think would be a good hire should Jewell become the asst principal?

Don't worry about it friend.
Its a message board and im just a user name. No hurt feelings on here.
To be honest, for Corbins sake, I hope they start to transition back to an athletics first type of school. The education qualities will always be there as the result of the teachers, but I haven't seen anyone really push athletics at Corbin for 20 years. The reason Jewell has kept his job is because of the amount of wins, even though most were gimmies, and the fact that hes a great teacher from what ive heard.

Corbin needs that boost back. IF they don't make a change soon, and Whitley continues to get better with a coach everybody wants to play for, then I believe you can really start to see some shifts in athletes from one school to the other.

[HAROLD]

I don't disagree with you a bit Oldhound. Despite how good of coaches that they are, they certainly show favoritism. This past season was a little better in the terms of playing kids but in the past, too many kids were left standing on the sidelines instead of getting clock when they could have helped out. When you have 70-75 kids on a team, you certainly have more than 30-35 kids who can log significant minutes. The D was as good as it was this year because you didn't have many kids playing ironman football. However on offense, you had about 15 players who would play.

By doing that, you essentially have a single A team playing in a rather tough 3A district. That dog just won't hunt. The staff should open their eyes and play the kids that they have on the roster. I realize some kids just aren't good but there are a good 15 athletes that could've helped out a tremendous amount these past two seasons if even it was just to give some key guys a breather.

Jackson or Teague would be two coaches that I wouldn't argue getting the job. Hilton is a fine coach but as I said, with his age, he would be more of a band-aid. If he were to get the job, I'd not argue it because he is simply one of the best but there are other long haul coaches that would be better suited at the moment. Duncum is another name that many will throw around. I love Greg to death and think he would be great for the Hounds but I do understand people with reservations of him being hired. Corbin is job where you would want more of a proven coach. Teague would fall into this category too.

Now that it has come and gone, I can say this. The perfect hire, just went back to Boyle County. He wanted the job badly after Cotton left and he wanted it badly after Whitaker left. A mutual friend of ours told me he was interested when it was clear Joker wouldn't be retained at UK. After the Joker firing went public, I heard it straight from the horses mouth that he was hoping Corbin would open up like he was hearing at the time. Corbin missed the boat on Chuck Smith.

[Gator95]

How many seniors does Corbin return?

[RunItUpTheGut]

^
Ive Moderated your post like you asked Gator. You should be good to go now.

[SEKYFAN]

How many seniors does Corbin return?

I believe they return 22 seniors.

[64SUR]

If jewell takes another job greg duncum will be the man.:poker face:

[SEKYFAN]

If jewell takes another job greg duncum will be the man.:poker face:

I like Greg, but I cannot see it happening.

[oldhound70s]

I like Greg, but I cannot see it happening.

I totally agree, I like Greg but the administration won't give him the reigns nor could he handle it. I think an outsider would be who they go after. Mike Jackson would be a good fit. Former Redhound, successful head coach, but still enough of an outsider.

[oldhound70s]

Duncum could be a better fit at Whitley or South. I'm sure Lynn Camp wishes they hired him now. I don't think Whitley will consider him but S Laurel just might.

[cherokee]

Thanks. I reserved my thoughts on Dudley because if for some out of this world reason he did take the job, I wouldn't look like an idiot, but I don't think hes the right pick.

As for your comments on Corbin, you are spot on. I wasn't kidding when I said Cotton was the greatest football mind in this world, because he is. Great man and teacher as well. I remember when Whitaker came on, as you said, it was all in hopes Couch would follow, and I bet the elder at the Corbin dinner table still wish they wouldn't have made that mistake.

Cotton last 4 years at Corbin 26- 21 loses
7-5
7-5
6-6
6-5

Whitaker 4 years at Corbin 29-16
8-3
6-5
11-1
4-7

nicker: REALLY

[oldhound70s]

Cotton last 4 years at Corbin 26- 21 loses
7-5
7-5
6-6
6-5

Whitaker 4 years at Corbin 29-16
8-3
6-5
11-1
4-7

nicker: REALLY

I'd like to see the strength of those schedules as well.
:pondering:

[cherokee]

I'd like to see the strength of those schedules as well.
:pondering:

1998 Whitaker last year went 8-3 lost to
Middlesboro 14-1 STATE CHAMPIONS
Bell co 10-2
Bourbon Co 8-4 with Dudley that was beaten by Danville who was state
runner-up that year

district in 1998
rockcastle
somerset
wayne
estill

district changed in 1999 that would = 7 wins every year during this period 5
in the district and at least 2 more in the playoffs
casey
wayne
taylor
green
russell

[NW247]

Steve has done a good job keeping the boat floating. I hope that Steve gets the admin job if that is what he wants.

[RunItUpTheGut]

Cotton last 4 years at Corbin 26- 21 loses
7-5
7-5
6-6
6-5

Whitaker 4 years at Corbin 29-16
8-3
6-5
11-1
4-7

nicker: REALLY

Theres more people that would agree with me than you.

[cherokee]

Theres more people that would agree with me than you.

Sorry gut this is not an election , the numbers don' t lie, the world doesn't stop at the Whitley county line and beyond that you are are perceived as a joke, even in Whitley county.:biglmao:

[pjdoug]

how many state championships has Whitaker won?

[Gummie Bear]

Is this even a serious discussion
Cotton Adams is twice the coach Whitaker is or was everyone knows that

[pjdoug]

Is this even a serious discussion
Cotton Adams is twice the coach Whitaker is or was everyone knows that

seems like a joke doesn't it? nicker:

[cherokee]

Is this even a serious discussion
Cotton Adams is twice the coach Whitaker is or was everyone knows that

Does lynch still have a football teamnicker: if not there goes your bragging rights