[StrayBullet]

The only two major complaints i have are that they called a timeout before halftime with us just to get the ball back and score again, and of course the rediculous celebration at midfield last year after they blew us out. If you don't believe me look at Batpuff's signature. I mean its all fine and dandy to celebrate your wins IN THE LOCKER ROOM. but they acted like they had just won a state championship, not beat a Single-A team to death.

So do you have a problem with a team winning their first game in 2 years at the expense of your Tigers and celebrating afterwards whether it be on the field or the lockerroom? Honest question.

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

So do you have a problem with a team winning their first game in 2 years at the expense of your Tigers and celebrating afterwards whether it be on the field or the lockerroom? Honest question.

They can celebrate all they want. But not at midfield on another teams field. That to me at least shows a complete lack of disrespect to your opponent. I know if paintsville ever tried to pull a stunt like that Kinner would run them till their feet were bleeding same thing with any coach I have known personally. The only exception to this rule is a rivalry game.

[StrayBullet]

They can celebrate all they want. But not at midfield on another teams field. That to me at least shows a complete lack of disrespect to your opponent. I know if paintsville ever tried to pull a stunt like that Kinner would run them till their feet were bleeding same thing with any coach I have known personally. The only exception to this rule is a rivalry game.

Thanks for a mature and honest opinion:rockon:

[WildDawg]

Boo hoo

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

Thanks for a mature and honest opinion:rockon:

Anytime buddy.

[kmba32]

IMO LC is the strongest of the weaker teams in KY and their begging for respect, try playing and beating a good team not the best a good team then maybe.

[bulldog42]

LC was missing swagger bad going into last year. I'm not big on some of the things that went on after the games last year. I like the act like you've been there problem is most of those kids hadn't. That Paintsville game was only 2nd game won in 3 seasons. The Knox game was tge first big home playoff win in forever. The kids did that dance at a pep rally and unfortunatly the pa announcer kicked that song on before we got off the field. The Lockerroom at Bell was flat embarrassing by 2sr's that got kicked out of their last game ever. Bell Co and LC both embarrassed themselves that night. The 2 kids have been through more than most could imagine. They also apologized to LC and BC and punishments were served. That was all last year and lessons learned.
This year there hasn't been one dance. Every one of Hunter James 10 TD's he has handed the ball to the ref. The difference...these kids have been there before. Different expectations and attitudes at Lawrence Co this year. As for the timeout before the half it was to practice the 2 min drill in case it was needed later in the season. Unfortunatly it was a 1 play drive so there was no work on communication. It wasn't even halftime! James had 6 carries and Bently 4. That's no where close to what the should be getting especially if LC wanted to run up the score. Heck all 58 kids played in that game! This is much to do about nothing.

[LeeCoUKFan]

WOW!! Congrats to the Bulldogs!! I expected LC to win but not by that much! I guess i underestimated LC or overestimated Shelby Valley

[shadow308]

They can celebrate all they want. But not at midfield on another teams field. That to me at least shows a complete lack of disrespect to your opponent. I know if paintsville ever tried to pull a stunt like that Kinner would run them till their feet were bleeding same thing with any coach I have known personally. The only exception to this rule is a rivalry game.

So let me get this right, you beleive in having respect for the teams you like. but if there your rival its fine to disrespect them.

[shadow308]

lol

[WildDawg]

All of you Bell fans keep pouring it on. Lawrence County has been down the last few years and it's easy to talk smack while they're still rebuilding. Lawrence Co isn't completely there yet but they're getting closer every year. Coach Salmons will have some teams for you guys in the future. I can't wait until that day comes.

[shadow308]

when u run 75pts up on the cards or belfry then u will get respect,dont guess u will ever get it.sorry

I did not know you guys were Held so highly as the team to beat.:lmao:

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

So let me get this right, you beleive in having respect for the teams you like. but if there your rival its fine to disrespect them.

If you guys beat a team like bell it would be just fine. Beat Belfry just fine that is a big win. Im not sure who LC's big rival is but im thinking Sheldon Clark. So therefore after a win over SC it would be just fine for the Bulldogs to celebrate like that, im sure they would do it right back if they won. But in a regular run of the mill game it is wrong.

[shadow308]

If you guys beat a team like bell it would be just fine. Beat Belfry just fine that is a big win. Im not sure who LC's big rival is but im thinking Sheldon Clark. So therefore after a win over SC it would be just fine for the Bulldogs to celebrate like that, im sure they would do it right back if they won. But in a regular run of the mill game it is wrong.

So the answer is Yes you can disrespect some teams

[StrayBullet]

All of you Bell fans keep pouring it on. Lawrence County has been down the last few years and it's easy to talk smack while they're still rebuilding. Lawrence Co isn't completely there yet but they're getting closer every year. Coach Salmons will have some teams for you guys in the future. I can't wait until that day comes.

I believe that when LC drops to 3A next fall and if Salmons can keep the coaching staff he has now intact for a period of time then LC will have some teams in the near future that will open your eyes and make you think that LC will be the team to beat in 3A.

[UndercoverMother]

I would say for the remaining teams on LC's schedule, and possibly playoff teams that could face them, don't be talking smack. If i can remember straight they ran through McCreary Central and Knox Central (quality team) with ease. LC boasts a much improved team this year.

[StrayBullet]

I would say for the remaining teams on LC's schedule, and possibly playoff teams that could face them, don't be talking smack. If i can remember straight they ran through McCreary Central and Knox Central (quality team) with ease. LC boasts a much improved team this year.

LC has the base for a very good team early this year but they need to mature and get reps in for both sides of the ball.

[CatDawg]

:eyeroll:

So let me get this right, you beleive in having respect for the teams you like. but if there your rival its fine to disrespect them.

Well when I grew up Paintsville was a rival and a HATED one at that so I guess it was ok then. Especially since the night before LC received so much respect from the Tigers soccer team.:eyeroll:

[dbcooper]

People will whine if they score too much, groan if they don't put up enough "style" points, make jabs at the schedule and on and on.
The only thing LC can control is its own effort and execution.
Do that, let the "experts," amateur standard setters for what is just the right number of points to score and all the others type what they want with their mouths full of cheese doodles.
Play hard, play smart, play together and leave every single drop of intensity on the field.

[kbcheer(:]

Good game boys!

[dbcooper]

I just wonder where the points scored/point spread police were in 2005 when Paintsville outscored two consecutive opponents 127-14 and dropped 71 on Evarts? Didn't a Tiger quarterback account for every score in one of those beatdowns?

[Real Badman]

I just wonder where the points scored/point spread police were in 2005 when Paintsville outscored two consecutive opponents 127-14 and dropped 71 on Evarts? Didn't a Tiger quarterback account for every score in one of those beatdowns?

Dont make it sound like dropping 71 on Evarts was so bad. The final score of that game was 71-40. That is nothing like this. That was a 31 point spread. Of course, looking back this isnt the worst beat down in recent mountain history, I remember a few years back when PBurg dropped 80+ on Betsy Layne and held them to 0.

[CatDawg]

I just wonder where the points scored/point spread police were in 2005 when Paintsville outscored two consecutive opponents 127-14 and dropped 71 on Evarts? Didn't a Tiger quarterback account for every score in one of those beatdowns?

You wouldn't be talking about 2008 when they beat Phelps 60 to 14 then followed that up with a beat down of South Floyd to the tune of 60 to 0. So that would be 120 to 14 in two games a total of 106 point spread. LC was 142 to 27 a total of 115 point spread. Not much difference in the two especially the second games Paintsville had a spread of 60 points and LC had a 61 point spread.

http://scoreboard.12dt.com/scoreboard/kh...fb08/27774

[CatDawg]

Then again maybe we are talking about 2005 when they beat Allen Central 61 to 14 then followed that up the next week with a 66 to 0 beat down of Jenkins. That 66 point spread is just a bit bigger than LC's over Shelby Valley. Additionally, the toal of 127 to 14 in those two games was 113 points only 2 less than LC's first two games. Need to check out some of the other scores from that year as well for the Tigers.

http://scoreboard.12dt.com/scoreboard/khsaa/kyfb5/19797

[CatDawg]

Playoffs in 2000 beat Cumberland 70 to 8 in the first round. 62 point spread to a team in the playoffs. Shame Shame.

[dbcooper]

Dont make it sound like dropping 71 on Evarts was so bad. The final score of that game was 71-40. That is nothing like this. That was a 31 point spread. Of course, looking back this isnt the worst beat down in recent mountain history, I remember a few years back when PBurg dropped 80+ on Betsy Layne and held them to 0.

Then where's the line, Badman? Scoring 71 is ok if your defense sucks? This isn't much different because what was done was in 3 quarters plus a play, and in 27 offensive snaps. That isn't even a good practice.

My point is this - no one gets ticked until their team gets clocked. I felt like that when I saw teams I like get drilled - until I stepped back and realized there's not much that can be done when the talent disparity is that great.

I personally would have preferred LC not score 75 on Valley, but I would also have preferred Valley not beat Knott 66-0... or Betsy Layne or Jenkins or Phelps or whatever other teams not get clocked like they have over and over.

But Coach Salmons had a clear reason for coaching the game the way he did and that is to make his team better, and that is all he is responsible for - the same way Coach Runyon was with the Tigers in '05 when Paintsville averaged a 51 to 19 blowout in their 10 wins.

If you are okay with that margin or 71-40 over Evarts or whatever, but not this one it is simply because you have an arbitrary sense of appropriate margins or totals in your head that have nothing to do with actual circumstances or facts of the game.

Interestingly, I haven't seen many SV fans on here moaning. Maybe, just maybe they concede that it could have been WAY worse than it was.

[Game Over]

Plain and simple, Lawrence is one of the best teams in the State. With Valley playing the way they are, lucky to score 14 on them.

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

What fails to be mentioned in all of these Paintsville blowouts is that starters were being taken out before halftime, and all were out halfway through the third. usually we would leave the starting qb in to run the O and generally after halftime he would be the only starter in the game. Adding on to that in 07 JTA would run three plays with his JV against teams like AC, Phelps, and Betsy Layne. No passing at all in the second, with the starters riding the pine. Kinner did the same in every blowout, take for example last year against south floyd, the starters were being pulled before halftime. And no timeouts have been used in games like that for the tigers. as has been said it is ok for your j.v to score on opponents, but in my book at least leaving starters in until the fourth is running it up.

[dbcooper]

Then explain how Pugh had his record breaking game in '05. Explain that. You can't. It was an offensive glut to allow a kid to show his talent in every way possible and a GREAT decision by a coach trying to re-invigorate a historically strong program that wasn't exactly setting the world on fire before that season (the Tigers were 6-5 in '04, 5-6 in 2003).

Also, mention that LCs starters played three snaps - one on defense - in the third quarter against the Tigers in the first game of the season, since you're such a stickler for details.

You can't, because you're ticked that Paintsville got drilled. I understand because I've been on that side of things. You get frustrated seeing a lopsided game. Like Allen Central was when they lost 74-20 to... PAINTSVILLE... in '03. And Jenkins was when they got slammed 58-6 by... nevermind.

When the facts don't support your emotions, then let the facts speak.

And another thing, the celebration after the '09 Paintsville game took place on the edge of the field by the visitor sideline (not the middle of the field - this is fact) and not in the locker room because it was the end of basically a 2 year drought and the PHS visitors locker room would NEVER accomodate a celebration such as was warranted by the occasion.

[Real Badman]

Then where's the line, Badman? Scoring 71 is ok if your defense sucks? This isn't much different because what was done was in 3 quarters plus a play, and in 27 offensive snaps. That isn't even a good practice.

My point is this - no one gets ticked until their team gets clocked. I felt like that when I saw teams I like get drilled - until I stepped back and realized there's not much that can be done when the talent disparity is that great.

I personally would have preferred LC not score 75 on Valley, but I would also have preferred Valley not beat Knott 66-0... or Betsy Layne or Jenkins or Phelps or whatever other teams not get clocked like they have over and over.

But Coach Salmons had a clear reason for coaching the game the way he did and that is to make his team better, and that is all he is responsible for - the same way Coach Runyon was with the Tigers in '05 when Paintsville averaged a 51 to 19 blowout in their 10 wins.

If you are okay with that margin or 71-40 over Evarts or whatever, but not this one it is simply because you have an arbitrary sense of appropriate margins or totals in your head that have nothing to do with actual circumstances or facts of the game.

Interestingly, I haven't seen many SV fans on here moaning. Maybe, just maybe they concede that it could have been WAY worse than it was.

The line is unspoken. A coach knows when the score is getting ran up. I look through coaching standpoints. Not fan, players, or parents. I know when my team is beating the other team into the ground I need to pull them out. Im not defending LC at all. I think it was a classless move. Same with PBurg like I mentioned, and same with Valley beating Knott.