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11-21-2010, 10:25 AM
Bob Seger Wrote:I would have seen the look on your face if that ancient hand grenade that JC threw at your impenetraable modern radar defended end zone defense would have been caught. Again all you " self consumed expert" blowhards seem to not want to admit that the receiver was wide open and the throw was perfect. Where was that state of the art impenetrable defense then John Madden? HHS didn't stop those rock throwing neandathals on that play. Quite the opposite. Unfortunately what was a perfect night through the air up to that point turned humanistic. HHS was beat, and then, guess what?......................................yours was the "duck" with all it's "high tech wizardry" that was dead.....lol
How big of a "joke" would that have been? I'll bet Dale Mueller aint standing and laughing and making fun. I'll bet he is thanking his God in heaven that he was able to escape with his football life, because deep down in his heart, he knows he was beat.
I have admited he was wide open and have admited all year that HHS weakness is their pass D. I get criticized for it all the time.
11-21-2010, 10:36 AM
2dog Wrote:You guys took that bait and swallowed it whole. You lost and still claim to have somehow won?????? That pass was knocked loose by the HHS DB. Highlands is a 3A class. Again, without HHS mistakes JC doesn't score at all. HHS made the mistakes and deserved to be scored on. You were beat by a HHS team that most admit isn't as good as some past years. Your claims to have somehow won are pathetic. That smashmouth works on most mountain teams, but it will not get you a championship. Wake up!Highlands is not a 3A size school. Highlands was 3A the last time that the teams were reclassified but its current enrollment puts in squarely in 4A as it does Johnson Central. You are entitled to your own opinion but not to your own facts.
11-21-2010, 10:37 AM
Eagle_Fan442 Wrote:Posts like these are classy???? The Bluebirds SQUEEKED by JC and anyone who watched that game honestly knows this.
As far as smashmouth being a joke, you may want to go back to the film and look again, maybe you can explain to me the hit that Bratton layed on #44.
Now, I'll give credit where credit is due and congratulate the Birds on the win. Towles is a very good Quarterback.
I'm having a really hard time believing that the "better" team won. Not trying to be disrespectful in anyway to the Bluebirds when I say that. I honestly think JC was the "better" team and Highlands happened to be the lucky team that night. Maybe my gold glasses are getting fogged up a little, but I don't think so. Anyways, it's over and I wish the best for every young man that was on that field that night from both schools. Words can not express how proud I am of this years JC's team. They will forever be :1: in my book!!!
I have to agree and disagree with your post. First off it was a great hit by bratton.
Ido believe the better team won, but JC is very good and you should be proud. Yes, JC could hav won the game at the end.But a football have is 48 mins and turning points happen. If ahhs does not funble, the game easily could have got out of control for JC. If HHS does not hhold JC on 4th down early in the game, JC might have taking control of the game. You can not pick out one play as the cause for a win or a lose.Highlands D held JC's O to 7 pts; Highlands O put 21 pts on JC's D; I think the better team won.
11-21-2010, 10:40 AM
sstack Wrote:I have to agree and disagree with your post. First off it was a great hit by bratton.
Ido believe the better team won, but JC is very good and you should be proud. Yes, JC could hav won the game at the end.But a football have is 48 mins and turning points happen. If ahhs does not funble, the game easily could have got out of control for JC. If HHS does not hhold JC on 4th down early in the game, JC might have taking control of the game. You can not pick out one play as the cause for a win or a lose.Highlands D held JC's O to 7 pts; Highlands O put 21 pts on JC's D; I think the better team won.
sstack, please go wipe the sleepies out of our eyes, you struggled with this on :biggrin: JK:Thumbs:
11-21-2010, 10:49 AM
Stardust Wrote:sstack, please go wipe the sleepies out of our eyes, you struggled with this on :biggrin: JK:Thumbs:
Haven't had my coffee yet, fingers not working yet(not sure the brain is either).
11-21-2010, 10:57 AM
2dog Wrote:You guys took that bait and swallowed it whole. You lost and still claim to have somehow won?????? That pass was knocked loose by the HHS DB. Highlands is a 3A class. Again, without HHS mistakes JC doesn't score at all. HHS made the mistakes and deserved to be scored on. You were beat by a HHS team that most admit isn't as good as some past years. Your claims to have somehow won are pathetic. That smashmouth works on most mountain teams, but it will not get you a championship. Wake up!
I have to agree with You 2dog... Thats how HHS is were their at year end and year out. If HHS does not fumble its 28 to 7.
11-21-2010, 11:31 AM
I said in the prediction thread that JC had to play perfect to win and Highlands did not. Well JC almost did it. The problem with JC's lack of a passing game is that a team like Highlands comes into this game and prepares as if JC is going to run every play. That gives them a huge advantage. JC can pass the football, but they do a terrible job of keeping defenses like Highlands honest. The rushing records are great, but maybe next year throw the ball a little more during the regular season and make people respect your passing game, which is a lot better than what I thought it was. You may not score to the degree you did this year, but you'll keep a team like Highlands from playing so one dimensional against you on defense.
Great game!
Great game!
11-21-2010, 11:36 AM
Boozer Wrote:I have to agree with You 2dog... Thats how HHS is were their at year end and year out. If HHS does not fumble its 28 to 7.Yes sir! It's been fun making fun of mountain mushmouth! I have to admit to a bit of whining myself, but those mountain fans are by far the worst! They are like liberals, They commit the crime and blame it on someone else! Maybe I've whined a little because my family is from the mountains and it's in the blood! Takes one to know one I guess. The comedy continues on the HHS/Harlan tread. Woke up this morning and nearly laughed myself into a coma! On to Bloody Harlan! :biggrin:
11-21-2010, 12:35 PM
Eagle_Fan442 Wrote:I'm having a really hard time believing that the "better" team won.
Yup, for the third time in three years.:Thumbs:
Eagle_Fan442 Wrote:They will forever be :1: in my book!!!
That'll look nice in the trophy case next to the other two. Keep it shiny now, y'hear. Talk to you again next year.:devilflam
11-21-2010, 12:50 PM
The first pass that was dropped he was wide open. The closest DB was five yards away, and Sanor just dropped it, In football that happens.
11-21-2010, 01:03 PM
whackem'n'stackem Wrote:Despite how I feel about the coach, the program, and many of the posters from JC, I shouldn't express them on a public forum. I told myself I wasn't going to dish it out after the game, but I gave in. Sorry to all the JC faithful. In all seriousness, it was a great game and could very well have gone the other way. To all those I've offended, I'm sorry. And no, I'm not being sarcastic. Consider me a work in progress.:biggrin:Your apology is pointless.When you get on attack in PM.I didn't post for a reason.I wanted your team to be pround of their win.Probably their hardest test of the season.But since you started.Its a shame when some of your coaches dont even shake hands.I used to have respect for him.I cheered him for Kentucky and even watched what little he played in the NFL.But when you stick your hand out and he wont shake it.Now that is classless.No more respect.I could never in a million years imagine how a coach could let an assistant or anyone on the sidelines be drinking alochol on their sidelines.Sorry coach but they disrespect you when they do that.Its not speculation either its a fact.Congrats Highlands now go win the State Championship.
11-21-2010, 01:09 PM
No matter what happen it was a 21-14 score and JC kept it close.
11-21-2010, 01:16 PM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:Enough with the Highlands is a 3A school. Based on current enrollment numbers, both Johnson Central and Highlands are 4A schools. I am sick of hearing that Highlands is a tiny 3A school competing with giant 5A schools. It's simply not true and it is dishonest to keep making the claim. They are a small 4A school and JC is a large 4A school.
Great post, it is so funny that before this game the HHS followers stated that there was no way JC could compete with the double platoon team and its depth. So why now are they saying it had nothing to do with the win?
IMO they were both correct in their prediction post, but also wrong, having that many kids did have an impact on the game but they still only won by 7, so JC did compete. I know a win is a win and that is all that matters but the gap sure is narrowing.
11-21-2010, 01:33 PM
Gotta give props to Highlands' defense, they did a great job against the JC offense. Myself, like many others believe that JC can throw the ball when they want to, just don't understand why they don't do it more. Hall has a good arm and is accurate, why not spread it out more with Jude, Sanor, and Parker split out. Hall has the speed and agility to scramble if noone gets open.
JC's defense did a great job IMO. For those who have said that HIghlands never really got their offense going because they didn't open it up must have been drunk when they watched the game. Highlands did what everyone expected them to do, they sent their WR's deep and the QB launched it, MANY MANY times. One play that really stood out to me other than the fumble return was the 3rd and Long on Highlands' last TD drive. The QB threw one deep, the JC defender (who is a Freshman) had the position to make the INT but the Highlands WR made a GREAT play/catch to pick up the HUGE first down. Highlands don't connect on that pass, JC wins the game.
Not sure what Highlands has coming back next year, but JC should be pretty good, not as good as this year IMO, but they will be good. The defense will carry them a long way with 7-8 returning starters (somebody correct me if I'm wrong on that number). The offense will return 5 starters, 4 of which are linemen including the TE, and they return Jude. They will have a hard time filling the spots for Hall, Bratton, and Ousley on both sides of the ball.
All in all this was a great game to watch and JC has NOTHING to be ashamed about. This might be a "down" year for Highlands (according to all the fans), but they were still the heavy favorite in most people's minds accross the state, no matter what anybody says. JC hung right in there and had their chances to win, it just wasn't meant to be.
I'd like to say to my lil buddy DJ Ousley that it has been a joy watching him play over the years, he has come a long way in the last couple years.
JC's defense did a great job IMO. For those who have said that HIghlands never really got their offense going because they didn't open it up must have been drunk when they watched the game. Highlands did what everyone expected them to do, they sent their WR's deep and the QB launched it, MANY MANY times. One play that really stood out to me other than the fumble return was the 3rd and Long on Highlands' last TD drive. The QB threw one deep, the JC defender (who is a Freshman) had the position to make the INT but the Highlands WR made a GREAT play/catch to pick up the HUGE first down. Highlands don't connect on that pass, JC wins the game.
Not sure what Highlands has coming back next year, but JC should be pretty good, not as good as this year IMO, but they will be good. The defense will carry them a long way with 7-8 returning starters (somebody correct me if I'm wrong on that number). The offense will return 5 starters, 4 of which are linemen including the TE, and they return Jude. They will have a hard time filling the spots for Hall, Bratton, and Ousley on both sides of the ball.
All in all this was a great game to watch and JC has NOTHING to be ashamed about. This might be a "down" year for Highlands (according to all the fans), but they were still the heavy favorite in most people's minds accross the state, no matter what anybody says. JC hung right in there and had their chances to win, it just wasn't meant to be.
I'd like to say to my lil buddy DJ Ousley that it has been a joy watching him play over the years, he has come a long way in the last couple years.
Notre Dame Football…GO IRISH
11-21-2010, 01:34 PM
eagle Wrote:Great post, it is so funny that before this game the HHS followers stated that there was no way JC could compete with the double platoon team and its depth. So why now are they saying it had nothing to do with the win?
IMO they were both correct in their prediction post, but also wrong, having that many kids did have an impact on the game but they still only won by 7, so JC did compete. I know a win is a win and that is all that matters but the gap sure is narrowing.
That gap is about to get real wide next year. Early line Highlands minus 30 vs J.C. next November.
11-21-2010, 01:37 PM
BellCoBobcats09 Wrote:When we played JC this year we had 316 yards on the ground. Doesnt that count for us? :biggrin:
Bell County does have a great team, beat JC by a greater margin than Highlands and if Im not incorrect are in the Mountains and play smashmouth football. IMO they were the best team JC faced all year, followed by Boyle and then HHS being tied with Sheldon Clark. Just IMO.
11-21-2010, 03:19 PM
2dog Wrote:You guys took that bait and swallowed it whole. You lost and still claim to have somehow won?????? That pass was knocked loose by the HHS DB. Highlands is a 3A class. Again, without HHS mistakes JC doesn't score at all. HHS made the mistakes and deserved to be scored on. You were beat by a HHS team that most admit isn't as good as some past years. Your claims to have somehow won are pathetic. That smashmouth works on most mountain teams, but it will not get you a championship. Wake up!
Listen goofy, nobody took any bait and nobody claimed they won anything. I know that is a combination of a thousand different things that decide any outcome of any game. It doesn't tae a great deal of intelligence to understand what I was saying. Obviously you're stuggling to get to that point though. But blowing off about that our antiquaited offense as not being one that can beat HHS, you were totally proved wrong on that. It wasn't the offense that was the problem, but there was a lack on one single play due to human malfunction, not the offensive scheme.
Lets ask one simple question here, and there is a real simple answer that even most simple folk can comprehend, though I'm cautiously nervous that I'm getting a little too high tech for you 2dog, but here goes anyway.
If the ball is not dropped (and no, it was not knocked away) and if JC does convert the 2 point conversion what is the score at that point and how much time remains on the clock? I know this is a tuff one for you, but give it a try anyways. OK?
11-21-2010, 03:29 PM
2dog Wrote:Yes sir! It's been fun making fun of mountain mushmouth! I have to admit to a bit of whining myself, but those mountain fans are by far the worst! They are like liberals, They commit the crime and blame it on someone else! Maybe I've whined a little because my family is from the mountains and it's in the blood! Takes one to know one I guess. The comedy continues on the HHS/Harlan tread. Woke up this morning and nearly laughed myself into a coma! On to Bloody Harlan! :biggrin:Hey Billy Ray Joe Bob, I can tell by your posts that you certainly are some slick talking "uptowner" now.:eyeroll: I'll bet no one up in nky has ever confused you as being some dumb country hick. No doubt you're the cultural pride of Ft. Thomas!!!! lol!!!
11-21-2010, 03:36 PM
Bob Seger Wrote:Listen goofy, nobody took any bait and nobody claimed they won anything. I know that is a combination of a thousand different things that decide any outcome of any game. It doesn't tae a great deal of intelligence to understand what I was saying. Obviously you're stuggling to get to that point though. But blowing off about that our antiquaited offense as not being one that can beat HHS, you were totally proved wrong on that. It wasn't the offense that was the problem, but there was a lack ".........." on one single play due to human malfunction, not the offensive scheme.
Lets ask one simple question here, and there is a real simple answer that even most simple folk can comprehend, though I'm cautiously nervous that I'm getting a little too high tech for you 2dog, but here goes anyway.
If the ball is not dropped (and no, it was not knocked away) and if JC does convert the 2 point conversion what is the score at that point and how much time remains on the clock? I know this is a tuff one for you, but give it a try anyways. OK?
Insert "of execution".
11-21-2010, 03:50 PM
Boozer Wrote:I have to agree with Y (y) ou 2dog... That(')s how HHS is were(where) their(they're) at year end(in) and year out. If HHS does not fumble(,) it(')s 28 to 7.
I guess the family that posts together, stays together.
11-21-2010, 04:00 PM
sstack Wrote:If ahhs does not funble, the game easily could have got out of control for JC. .
"Turnovers aren't breaks. People make them happen," Highlands coach Dale Mueller said. "If the ball is on the ground, it's not an accident a guy picks it up. He's there because he knows where the play is and Ty knows where the play is going."
This is a quote earlier in the year by Coach Mueller, it can relate to JC picking the fumble up and scoring though, credit must be given to JC for the fumble return regardless how it happened.
11-21-2010, 05:09 PM
Bob Seger Wrote:I guess the family that posts together, stays together.
Thank you Bob. The punctuation was awful there. They're=They are
We're=we are. Their=ownership as in ours or theirs. There=over there...
It's really not that difficult. I listened in that there class while them others waz talkin.
11-21-2010, 05:11 PM
Wideleft01 Wrote:If not for the fumble return TD it's a rout IMO. JC wasn't stopping Highlands, Highlands stopped themselves with some questionable play calls and then while Towles was getting taped up. If they go up 21-0, JC has no chance to even get back in the game.
On a side note, I appreciated the opportunity to watch the game and not having to drive 3+ hours. However, I've never heard more whining and crying from announcers than what I heard tonight. Especially in the first half. Questioning every spot and every call. Maybe they didn't have a good view from their vantage point, but it was tough to listen too. I even tried turning down the sound and listening to the Highlands broadcast, but it was several minutes ahead of the video feed.
Overall,both teams played hard. Each guy left it on the field. Jude found out he wasn't playing patsies this week like usual. I did love his heart and effort, but he's not going to run for big yards against decent teams. (Covcath was not good). My prediction is Highlands crushes JC the next 3 years.
Wideleft01 Wrote:Is my opinion gloating? Isn't this an opinion forum? A team with about 10 guys injured came in and won on the road. It took a 60yd fumble return TD for jc to even get in the game. How does anyone think it ends up if that fluke play doesn't happen and Highlands continues the drive and goes up 21-0 and JC starts passing? It doesn't end good for JC IMO.
Blau Vogel Wrote:By all accounts, JC had the perfect O game plan. What hasn't been mentioned is that Highlands had a perfect-ER D game plan. JJ runs for a couple thousand last week but can't get a hundo tonight. JC scores 30+ per game, tonight 7. Were it not for the only two turnovers in the game, 28 - 7 or 35 - 7 would have been the likely outcome.
I know turnovers are a part of the game but so are dropped passes and poor clock management.
INMVHO, JC played as well as they could, leaving in all on the field, on both sides of the ball. The Birds offense played good enough to win. Their defense played like champions.
Wideleft01 Wrote:Bottom line is Johnson Central has never beat Highlands. Apparently tried to get away from them in the re-classification. And lastly, couldn't beat Highlands in a so-called "down" year. I don't think they'll ever beat Highlands. A down year at Highlands seems to have become when they win a state championship, but don't have a perfect record. I'm okay with this "down" year.
Boozer Wrote:I have to agree with You 2dog... Thats how HHS is were their at year end and year out. If HHS does not fumble its 28 to 7.
Since a few of you like to talk about if's. What if HHS had not completed the TD pass at the end of the first half, (Which IMO took a perfect throw) and what if the DB had not fallen down on the 4th and 11 play on HHS last scoring drive? The game could it have been tied 7 all at the end of regulation.
11-21-2010, 05:14 PM
Wideleft01 Wrote:Thank you Bob. The punctuation was awful there. They're=They are
We're=we are. Their=ownership as in ours or theirs. There=over there...
It's really not that difficult. I listened in that there class while them others waz talkin.
:Cheerlead
You got my point.
11-21-2010, 05:29 PM
Bob Seger;1099413[B Wrote:]Hey Billy Ray Joe Bob[/B], I can tell by your posts that you certainly are some slick talking "uptowner" now.:eyeroll: I'll bet no one up in nky has ever confused you as being some dumb country hick. No doubt you're the cultural pride of Ft. Thomas!!!! lol!!!
:lmao::lmao::lmao:
That was classic.
11-21-2010, 05:38 PM
I don't understand why this post is still going. Johnson Central fans, you were beaten again by Highlands, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. You were simply beaten again. It may hurt to accept it but it's true. Have some class and congratulate Highland on being the better team and move on. Some of you all make me embarrassed to be from eastern Kentucky. We have a bad enough reputation as it is. Don't make it worse.
11-21-2010, 05:57 PM
Serving Aces Wrote:I was there. JC was never in this game. Highlands shut down Jude and did not need to gamble with passes.
This post is insane...lol
11-21-2010, 05:57 PM
I graudated from highlands and currently go to uk, and i thought all the bitterness was only on these blogs sites. (Boy was i mislead) Even at uk i run into students who graduated high school 2, 3 even 4 years ago that just hearing the name highlands gets them fired up. Personally, being a highlands graduate and former football player, i am beginning to wonder...Maybe its not the players that win the games every year, maybe its the stellar coaching staff that with no matter what players show up and what talent they have, they can field 11 guys that simply know how to get it done because they have been mentally prepared in practice....After all, for those who didn't know, Dale mueller does have an engineering degree under his belt from an ivy league school. Stop hating on the best. Instead, strive to be the best.
11-21-2010, 06:02 PM
Originally Posted by Boozer
I have to agree with Y (y) ou 2dog... That(')s how HHS is were(where) their(they're) at year end(in) and year out. If HHS does not fumble(,) it(')s 28 to 7.
I guess the family that posts together, stays together.
Good one Bob. If you tried to correct the spelling on all the threads, you would go insane.
I have to agree with Y (y) ou 2dog... That(')s how HHS is were(where) their(they're) at year end(in) and year out. If HHS does not fumble(,) it(')s 28 to 7.
I guess the family that posts together, stays together.
Good one Bob. If you tried to correct the spelling on all the threads, you would go insane.
11-21-2010, 06:13 PM
adopted purple Wrote:Originally Posted by Boozer
I have to agree with Y (y) ou 2dog... That(')s how HHS is were(where) their(they're) at year end(in) and year out. If HHS does not fumble(,) it(')s 28 to 7.
I guess the family that posts together, stays together.
Good one Bob. If you tried to correct the spelling on all the threads, you would go insane.
I guess no matter where we live, we can't get the "Kentucky" out of any of us:biggrin:
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