[3wishes]

Raceland. Has Johnson Central ever won a state title? Maybe they have but it's slipping my mind right now if they have or not.

I don't know if I would call Johnson Central one of the best programs compared to these others mentioned because for the past 21 years they have barely been above .500.
Since 1990 they have just won 54% of their games.
Never been to or won a State Championship.

[Jarons]

Raceland. Has Johnson Central ever won a state title? Maybe they have but it's slipping my mind right now if they have or not.

I agree that Raceland should get some consideration eventhough they have never won a regional title. Raceland has had some really good teams that never got out of the 1st couple of rounds due to being stuck in the Northern KY region and really bad luck in the playoffs. Raceland has had 4 really good teams (87, 88, 06, 08), for some reason just came up short. If 06 and 08 teams had won the regional finals, I believe that one or both of those teams would have won it all IMO.

[LWC]

Did Covington Catholic win a title? I can't remember, it seems like they have.

If they haven't they are a pretty good choice too.

[3wishes]

Did Covington Catholic win a title? I can't remember, it seems like they have.

If they haven't they are a pretty good choice too.

They've got 7

[toussaints]

I believe if 06 and 08 teams had won the regional finals, I believe that one or both of those teams would have won it all IMO.

I agree that they would've gotten to the finals that year. Was it 2006 when Raceland had Scotty Grizzle (sp.) at QB? He was easily one the best players in the state. I do remember in 2006 they were in the same region as NewCath (state champ), Beechwood (ended regular season #1 in class A), and Covington Holy Cross (ended regular season #3 in class A behind Danville). That region was loaded

[Jarons]

I agree that they would've gotten to the finals that year. Was it 2006 when Raceland had Scotty Grizzle (sp.) at QB? He was easily one the best players in the state. I do remember in 2006 they were in the same region as NewCath (state champ), Beechwood (ended regular season #1 in class A), and Covington Holy Cross (ended regular season #3 in class A behind Danville). That region was loaded

He was QB around that time. I cannot remember if that was his senior year or he had just graduated. I remember Raceland had the lead against NewCath at the half that year in the regional finals and just wore down in the second half.
You left out LCA from that region. They were the only team to defeat Raceland in the regular season and had a home playoff game against Raceland. That season was Hayden and Whitt's freshman season.

[toussaints]

He was QB around that time. I cannot remember if that was his senior year or he had just graduated. I remember Raceland had the lead against NewCath at the half that year in the regional finals and just wore down in the second half.
You left out LCA from that region. They were the only team to defeat Raceland in the regular season and had a home playoff game against Raceland. That season was Hayden and Whitt's freshman season.

thats right, that region had 5 of the top 10 teams in class A at the end of the regular season.

[RoShamBo]

I don't know as much about the other teams so I can't say for certain, but my pick is for Somerset...obviously. Tradition and history to rival some of the state's top programs, not a single trophy to show for it. For the record, Somerset has been playing football for over 100 years now and are 8th in all time wins.

[Bolt]

Whitley has never played in a championship game according to the KHSAA, I think they have one regional title and their current coach is below 500% at Whitley. As compared to Hazard, Somerset, Rockcastle etc. these teams have made it to the championship game and never won. So again I say :please:

I never said they were the best without one. I said they should just be in talks about it over the past 20 years.
Im not really a fan of Whitley however live in the area and know how good the program has been.
also, if you actually read my first post i stated a good reason why they havent been to a state championship game. They were pretty much playing with 2A talent for a lot of years while holding there own against 3A and 4A competetion back when there were only 4 classes.
The program itself is still relatively young as well.

[Bolt]

In my opinion, Whitley Co. has came along way! At one time the program was everyone's homecoming, but now they are not. They still struggle with the lack of numbers even though they have a huge school. I blame that area for that, not the school. I still don't know if Whitley's overall record is over 500, but most of that was due from the 60's to the 80's when Mike Campbell took over.

Also, I think that bolt was fair to point out, it has always been one or two teams, no matter in which division Whitley has been in.

Saying all of that if we look at recent history as bolt was there is a good case, but overall program, as pointed out by basically everyone else is correct.

:Thumbs:
Couldnt agree more. That was what i was trying to point out.
With the level they have played with really low numbers for a bigger school. They also have played the toughest competetion possible for their size since Campbell took over. They were the smallest school in 4A for a while when it was only 4 classes and you cant expect them to compete with the lex and lville schools, thus the reason we now have six classes.

But....I do see where all of you are coming from. Without knowing any history, i would probably think the same just by looking at records. As TV said, WC use to be the homecoming game, now its a circled one.

[toussaints]

After reading some of the replys, I think I'll go with Somerset. Somerset is one of the oldest football programs in the state. They've produced some very good players, been to the state finals 5 times. Some of the other schools have pretty good cases. Hazard, Prestonburg, Boone County. And i get why schools like Raceland and Whitley Co. are up there, but Somerset is due for a championship

[IAM22]

Ryle - their winning percentage for a school that does not even have 15 years on the books.

They have ONE district title in their 20 year history!

[Jumper Dad]

Unfortunately I have to say Somerset.....we've been close (5 runner-up) but just can't get over the hump.

[toussaints]

They have ONE district title in their 20 year history!

i agree that their case isn't really strong, but from 1992-1998 they were in the same district as CovCath & Highlands, and those 2 played in every state final game in that time span. The only loss was in 95 when Highlands lost to Bowling Green. No explaination for anything after that

[bulldog42]

Sad to say you can add Lawrence Co to that list. 7th winningest program in KY in all classes in the 90's. 3 final 4's over that span. Lost by 3 too Mayfield and ran into Highlands twice in the final 4 with Lorenzen/Gadulli. Also been beaten out by programs like Bell Co. Been in a good bit of Regional Championships. Lots of great athletes the past 20 years.

[Wideleft01]

They've got 7

Covcath only has 6. Only 1 in the last 13 years.(2006), so it would be easy for and 18 yr old to not realize Covcath has a title. They've been real bad for awhile now.

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

I don't know if I would call Johnson Central one of the best programs compared to these others mentioned because for the past 21 years they have barely been above .500.
Since 1990 they have just won 54% of their games.
Never been to or won a State Championship.

Johnson Central never really did anything great in football until Musick came around. Since then they have been doing pretty well for themselves but to my knowledge they have only made the state Semi Finals one time.

As for the best programs to not win it all From my personal knowledge I would have to go with Prestonsburg, The team they had in 92 which included my older brother Larry Morris was crazy good I never got to see them in person that I can remember, but I have watched a whole lot of film from them and they were unbelieveably good. How they didn't win the championship is beyond me.

I would also have to put Paintsville in here too they have made the finals 2 times, but have never been able to get it done.

[Panther Thunder]

I agree that Raceland should get some consideration eventhough they have never won a regional title. Raceland has had some really good teams that never got out of the 1st couple of rounds due to being stuck in the Northern KY region and really bad luck in the playoffs. Raceland has had 4 really good teams (87, 88, 06, 08), for some reason just came up short. If 06 and 08 teams had won the regional finals, I believe that one or both of those teams would have won it all IMO.

They could very well get their first this year.

[Jarons]

They could very well get their first this year.

I hope you are right. What people have told me is that they are a year away from being REALLY good. I think they had about 4 freshmen get a lot of playing time last season (2010) and the freshman class coming in is really talented.

[Tica]

Lone Oak has won 50 games in four years 2007-2010 with no title.

[3wishes]

Covcath only has 6. Only 1 in the last 13 years.(2006), so it would be easy for and 18 yr old to not realize Covcath has a title. They've been real bad for awhile now.

I was just stating what I thought was a fact, my bad I was one off.

[3wishes]

Johnson Central never really did anything great in football until Musick came around. Since then they have been doing pretty well for themselves but to my knowledge they have only made the state Semi Finals one time.

I agree JC is a very good program currently, I just didn't think they would probably qualify for this particular discussion. Musick made that program.
What year did JC become a school?

[Panther Thunder]

I hope you are right. What people have told me is that they are a year away from being REALLY good. I think they had about 4 freshmen get a lot of playing time last season (2010) and the freshman class coming in is really talented.

Just to clarify I was talking about Regional Titles. But they will be top 3 in the state if what everyone is saying is true in a couple years.

[Jarons]

Just to clarify I was talking about Regional Titles. But they will be top 3 in the state if what everyone is saying is true in a couple years.

I think you are right. I know they are in a really weak district and I believe that they are in a pretty weak region also. I don't remember who else in the region though.

[Panther Thunder]

I think you are right. I know they are in a really weak district and I believe that they are in a pretty weak region also. I don't remember who else in the region though.

Pikeville
Allen Central
Phelps
South Floyd
Paintsville
Nicholas County
Fairview

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

Pikeville
Allen Central
Phelps
South Floyd
Paintsville
Nicholas County
Fairview

Im going to assume they win this region with ease. lol.

[just wondering]

thats unreal to here they don't have a title.

[bac2369]

Hazard has to be on the top or close to it. I agree Lone Oak is on the list to as of the past several years with the record they have. Somerset is another team. I will also throw Lawerence is there. They were a power house back in the day and are trying to retain that now.

[Cat Daddy]

I would have to say Prestonsburg, Hazard, and Somerset are great programs who have not won a state championship.

[Gitback Coach]

Somerset has more wins than any other school without a state title, and they have been to the state finals more times than any other school without a title.

Not saying it's a distinction they necessarily relish, but looks like the Jumpers are best of the also-rans and runners-up.