[zaga_fan]

First-off...
Congratulations to the Rockets on the win tonight as they deserved this one.
I haven't read any of the posts but I could imagine what has been said.

We can talk about the wet field and the personal foul penalties that led to Rocks final 2 TDs all night but Perry had PLENTY of chances to make this one competitive and they failed to do it.

Perry had Rock on 3rd and long and 4th and long MULTIPLE times only to have their back's broken at the hands of Rock's QB. He played a great game and made all the right throws when his team needed him. Without him Rock could have lost this game.

There will be no excuses from me tonight and I'd like to say this one was closer than the score indicates....

but for PCC to stay out of the endzone all night I struggle to say that.

Perry's first play from scrimmage SHOULD'VE been a TD.
IF Perry wouldn't have given up first downs due to personal fouls on Rock's last 2 touchdown drives they could've been in a position to win the game.
IF Perry would even think about abandoning the shotgun for a play or two they may be able to establish some sort of running game.

But there were too many IF's and not enough points.

Again I say, Congrats to Parkey and the Rockets as they move on.
They beat a good, but not great, team tonight on their home field(in which the game was called fair) and they deserve all the praise and proved they are not only the benefactors of a favorable schedule...
but a force to be reckoned with in the mountains once again.

[laker20]

ah boys...

That was going to be my first post, but I didn't want to infringe upon any copyrights.....lol

[bcpc]

congrats rock, ur oline and dline was great tnight. perry had no answer........ rockets executed, pcc didnt

[zaga_fan]

I'm also confident that Perry WILL NOT go under center at ANY point in this season.

I'm not a football coach by any means but I simply don't see how in a game like this you could think that running it from the shotgun would be an option.
The snaps are harder to catch, your running back can't get the ball in rhythm, defenders are usually in the backfield when you hand it off.......

I just don't see how you can try to execute an entire game like that.

If I was going to run shotgun I would spread it out and throw slants and screens....
but I simply wouldn't run shotgun at all in this situation.

[zaga_fan]

Zaga and Aslan must be chocked on all that Sausage.....nicker:

Come on boys....let's hear your thoughts.

I live in Leatherwood, bro.

It takes me an hour or so to get home after these games if I come straight home lol

[LWC]

Zaga all the defenses you make for PCC, and the statements of, this would have happened, that would have happened, etc... remember Rockcastle was without 3 STARTERS, 1 of which was Clarke Rowe, who accounts for 2/3 of Rockcastle's offensive yards!

Now I ask, what might have been? His style is PERFECT for the field conditions of tonight'ss game.

Either way, it was a 22-0 win for Rock, and that is all that matters, both teams have to get focused for district play. Rock cannot celebrate long, because they face ANOTHER undefeated quality team.

[geauxtigers75]

I guess I misread these:

Perry CANNOT play on wet fields.

. Perry played absolutely atrocious.

We turned the ball over twice inside our own 20. Their turnover on downs was because our D stepped up

but i would really like to see this game played on a dry field.

but the truth is perry beat their self.

It was actually the special teams that showed up, brought unbelievable pressure on our punter and we was not ready for it, well played. I would actually like to see the game on a dry field, I think it had an impact on both teams, but us just a little more because of our pass happy offense. zaga said it best and almost said it all in his post, plenty of opportunities, not enough points. Good luck to Rock the rest of the way, hope they win their district, it would make this loss look much better on us. Good luck the rest of the way Rock, even though i've already said it once.

[geauxtigers75]

Zaga all the defenses you make for PCC, and the statements of, this would have happened, that would have happened, etc... remember Rockcastle was without 3 STARTERS, 1 of which was Clarke Rowe, who accounts for 2/3 of Rockcastle's offensive yards!

Now I ask, what might have been? His style is PERFECT for the field conditions of tonight'ss game.

Either way, it was a 22-0 win for Rock, and that is all that matters, both teams have to get focused for district play. Rock cannot celebrate long, because they face ANOTHER undefeated quality team.

We were without a starting defensive lineman, one of the big points of this game...Just more coulda, shoulda, woulda.

[zaga_fan]

Zaga all the defenses you make for PCC, and the statements of, this would have happened, that would have happened, etc... remember Rockcastle was without 3 STARTERS, 1 of which was Clarke Rowe, who accounts for 2/3 of Rockcastle's offensive yards!

Now I ask, what might have been? His style is PERFECT for the field conditions of tonight'ss game.

Either way, it was a 22-0 win for Rock, and that is all that matters, both teams have to get focused for district play. Rock cannot celebrate long, because they face ANOTHER undefeated quality team.

I've never seen Clark Rowe play so I couldn't tell you.
I didn't make any defenses, only stated facts.

The running backs didn't beat Perry Central tonight, Rock's QB and offensive line did.
There were no big runs to be made because Perry stacked the box and kept the running backs in front of them. If Rowe was in it wouldn't have made a big difference in my opinion. Maybe even the same score.
On EVERY long drive by Rock there was one or two plays where Rock's QB completed passes on 3rd and long or 4th and long.
The stats don't tell the story of this game.
You had to be there to watch it.

[LWC]

We were without a starting defensive lineman, one of the big points of this game...Just more coulda, shoulda, woulda.

Really? Really? REALLY? A defensive lineman versus 2/3 of your entire offense? Please go back to the scales and try to weigh that one again. If it was 2/3 of your offensive line, I might buy it. That O-line needs some serious improvement. Rock never sent more than 5, I don't think.

[McCameraMan]

WOW! I knew Rock was good but I didn't think they would go into tonight and shutout the dores. Nevertheless, Congrats Rock! And keep your heads up PCC.

[zaga_fan]

Really? Really? REALLY? A defensive lineman versus 2/3 of your entire offense? Please go back to the scales and try to weigh that one again. If it was 2/3 of your offensive line, I might buy it. That O-line needs some serious improvement. Rock never sent more than 5, I don't think.

Think again.

[geauxtigers75]

Really? Really? REALLY? A defensive lineman versus 2/3 of your entire offense? Please go back to the scales and try to weigh that one again. If it was 2/3 of your offensive line, I might buy it. That O-line needs some serious improvement. Rock never sent more than 5, I don't think.

Zaga also said it best, we stacked the box and mostly prevented the big play, so I don't really know how much of a difference he would've made, sure he's a good back, but I think the margin would have been mostly the same. But, we will never know, kind of like we'll never know if our d lineman would have made a difference. Also, when Rock sent 5(that is debatable on some plays), 3-4 usually came from one side, and we couldn't pick it up, great defensive planning by Saylor (best defensive mind in the mountains IMO), i'm pretty sure the O line has fared well this whole season, but Rock's blitzing scheme was very effective.

[laker20]

Zaga all the defenses you make for PCC, and the statements of, this would have happened, that would have happened, etc... remember Rockcastle was without 3 STARTERS, 1 of which was Clarke Rowe, who accounts for 2/3 of Rockcastle's offensive yards!

Now I ask, what might have been? His style is PERFECT for the field conditions of tonight'ss game.

Either way, it was a 22-0 win for Rock, and that is all that matters, both teams have to get focused for district play. Rock cannot celebrate long, because they face ANOTHER undefeated quality team.

Go ahead and celebrate as long as you like. Heck, I'd throw a three-day party on Tuesday and let the players off practice for the next 4-5 days.

[zaga_fan]

Bottom line....
what does this game mean for PCC?

They HAVE to learn something from this game.
Last year when Harlan County handed them a similar fate they learned nothing from it.
Only how to crumble when you face a team that pounds the ball.
The Dores have 2 weeks to get ready for Whitley and if they don't prepare for a similar football game they will end the season with another disappointing finish in the district seedings.

[geauxtigers75]

Bottom line....
what does this game mean for PCC?

They HAVE to learn something from this game.
Last year when Harlan County handed them a similar fate they learned nothing from it.
Only how to crumble when you face a team that pounds the ball.
The Dores have 2 weeks to get ready for Whitley and if they don't prepare for a similar football game they will end the season with another disappointing finish in the district seedings.

Agreed, this is a crucial tipping point for them. Hopefully they just learn from their mistakes and come back ready for Whitley, who's style is very similar to Rocks.

[LWC]

I've never seen Clark Rowe play so I couldn't tell you.
I didn't make any defenses, only stated facts.

The running backs didn't beat Perry Central tonight, Rock's QB and offensive line did.
There were no big runs to be made because Perry stacked the box and kept the running backs in front of them. If Rowe was in it wouldn't have made a big difference in my opinion. Maybe even the same score.
On EVERY long drive by Rock there was one or two plays where Rock's QB completed passes on 3rd and long or 4th and long.
The stats don't tell the story of this game.
You had to be there to watch it.

While I agree that visual is the best to evaluate, stats are unbiased results of a game. The old adage is that "numbers don't lie", it is true. I can watch a game and think a player did okay, but then I look at the stat-sheet and see he has only had 30 yards, etc....

I was blown away when I looked at McPhetridge's numbers against Huff's. You are right, Corey was asked to make very few plays, but when he was asked to, he did. The diving/extension catch made by Eli Haddix on 4th down or 3rd and very long was a heart-breaker for Perry.

The Huff-Pray connection was in full effect, I would bet that at least half of Kyle's completions were to Pray.

[zaga_fan]

Zaga also said it best, we stacked the box and mostly prevented the big play, so I don't really know how much of a difference he would've made, sure he's a good back, but I think the margin would have been mostly the same. But, we will never know, kind of like we'll never know if our d lineman would have made a difference. Also, when Rock sent 5(that is debatable on some plays), 3-4 usually came from one side, and we couldn't pick it up, great defensive planning by Saylor (best defensive mind in the mountains IMO), i'm pretty sure the O line has fared well this whole season, but Rock's blitzing scheme was very effective.

Rock sent quite a few on some plays.
We had WRs one-on-one for slants all night but Perry's WRs dropped them.
I would like to say that they could have made those catches....
but Perry is becoming known for WRs dropping passes so we might as well get used to it.

[geauxtigers75]

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I was blown away when I looked at McPhetridge's numbers against Huff's. You are right, Corey was asked to make very few plays, but when he was asked to, he did. The diving/extension catch made by Eli Haddix on 4th down or 3rd and very long was a heart-breaker for Perry.

Rock's QB was lights out tonight at crucial times, he was definitely the player of the game, he broke our D's back on multiple occasions.

[LWC]

Think again.

I can only go buy what the broadcasters on the radio were saying. They are not soothsayers or all-knowledgeable

[zaga_fan]

While I agree that visual is the best to evaluate, stats are unbiased results of a game. The old adage is that "numbers don't lie", it is true. I can watch a game and think a player did okay, but then I look at the stat-sheet and see he has only had 30 yards, etc....

I was blown away when I looked at McPhetridge's numbers against Huff's. You are right, Corey was asked to make very few plays, but when he was asked to, he did. The diving/extension catch made by Eli Haddix on 4th down or 3rd and very long was a heart-breaker for Perry.

The Huff-Pray connection was in full effect, I would bet that at least half of Kyle's completions were to Pray.

Here's something you can take to the bank...
Without Rock's QB making those plays they would've only scored once and without the help of foolish personal fouls they probably wouldn't have scored on those drives anyway.

Throw stats up all night long but Luna had 2 long runs and that is the ONLY reason he had over 100 yards.

[zaga_fan]

I can only go buy what the broadcasters on the radio were saying. They are not soothsayers or all-knowledgeable

They got pressure several times by sending 4 or 5 men but there was plenty of blitzes coming from all different angles.
Nothing more than 6 than I saw...
but 6 men blitzed multiple times.

[geauxtigers75]

I just have to say it again, Tony Saylor is the best defensive mind in the mountains, Rock should be very thankful to have him.

[LWC]

^Gotcha

[rustyankle]

Congrats Rock

[zaga_fan]

I just have to say it again, Tony Saylor is the best defensive mind in the mountains, Rock should be very thankful to have him.

He had Huff running for his life several times tonight without blitzing a lot.
He sent men unblocked all night.
Perry had enough blockers in to cover them...
just didn't execute.

The man deserves credit.

[LWC]

Rustyankle can probably answer this question:

Is Tony Saylor the d-coordinator anymore?

I was under the impression that Josh Martin is the D-Coordinator now. I think Tony is like an advisor or something, but not as hands-on as he used to be.

[rustyankle]

As a Rock class of 96 tony saylor is genius gameplanner

[geauxtigers75]

Rustyankle can probably answer this question:

Is Tony Saylor the d-coordinator anymore?

I was under the impression that Josh Martin is the D-Coordinator now. I think Tony is like an advisor or something, but not as hands-on as he used to be.

I just figured he was because I heard Parkey mention him when they spoke to him on sports OT.

[comeback_kidxXx]

Congrats Rock! Once more proving they are looking more and more like the Rock of old.

It is funny that already we've heard about: the field, a player who should play more on offense, and a great defense that stopped the rock in the red zone but "it was our fault for not converting in our red zone" mentality.

Congrats to the winners.

no one is making excuses ya moron, call'em excuses if you want to, what ever makes you feel better. :moon: