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11-22-2011, 01:59 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/newt-ready-first-d...49219.html
Just to warn everyone, this article seems a little biased, but the facts remain: Newt Gingrich is the newest front-runner in the Republican Primary race.
The question I ask you, just as I asked about Herman Cain: Can Newt Gingrich win the nomination? If he does, can he win the White House?
Quote:There are a few differences for Newt Gingrich, however, who now leads Mitt Romney in several polls. One is that he has way more experience on the national stage. He's way more confident and polished when it comes to debating and is unlikely to have a gaffe that involves simple public speaking. Also, his campaign already had an implosion, before it even got started, when most of key staff quit over the summer. Somehow he kept slogging along and is finally getting a serious look.
Just to warn everyone, this article seems a little biased, but the facts remain: Newt Gingrich is the newest front-runner in the Republican Primary race.
The question I ask you, just as I asked about Herman Cain: Can Newt Gingrich win the nomination? If he does, can he win the White House?
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11-22-2011, 03:17 PM
Every one of them has been front runners at some point.
11-22-2011, 03:34 PM
SKINNYPIG Wrote:If Newt can't win the WH over Obama...It no longer matters.The only hope the republicans have of beating Obama is Romney, but I can see already that with them, it is "anybody but Romney". This will be the downfall of republicans as far as the "big seat" goes in 2012.
11-23-2011, 03:30 AM
Obama had a lot to say about the Bush Administration slamming them mercilessly for the 6.8 unemployment rate as of November of 2008. Running over a 9 point unemployment since Obama got elected there has been scandal after scandal, from illegal gun running across a border so porous it's laughable, to the super failure of the so called super committee. (which, is nothing more complex than another filibuster by the dems because the only thing they are looking at right now is giving folks stuff) They are either unwilling or unable to see past the end of their liberal noses when it comes to the never ending all you can eat entitlement bar. By my reckoning it's been over 900 days since the dems have delivered a budget. I guess the strategy is to destroy the US economy and blame the republicans for it.
Folks, let's face it, America worked for lo these past 235 years. How could reasonable men and women allow a junior senator with less than 200 days service to come in and totally redefine what America is supposed to be and begin a process of reinventing this nation based on some liberal whims, many of which have been shown to have failed in the not too distant past?
Our debt has shot up an additional 5 trillion dollars in tha last 3 years, a meteoric 50% rise since Dec 15, 2008 George W's last days in office. And, because we are bent on the destruction of our great land via the entitlement at all cost, we are getting ready to gut our armed services another 600 billion so that we may hand that out to the poor as well. Heck, why not just back off this misquided "jobs bill" that will cost 460 billion?
Seriously, if Newt or Romney can't beat Obama it's over. And the irony is that "We the People" will have voted to give up America to the dogs if Obama is re-elected. Newt's got a little "carry on" baggage like I have mentiioned but, Obama's got a total train load of the stuff. I didn't vote for Obama the last time after I heard him say on the campaign trail that we Americans use 67% of the world's power and that cannot go on. Then he said under his plan the cost of electricity would neccessarily skyrocket. Once he got in office he proceeded to shut down electric generating plants and people on here tried to put a happy face on it. :please: EVERYBODY in my family that can legally vote, will be in a the booth on election day 2012, if we can get Newt in there it would be great. Romney is just a RINO but, it would still be like jumping to light speed! The boners Obama has pulled has given any candidate enough material to run a good campaign based on the record, more than enough ammo!
Folks, let's face it, America worked for lo these past 235 years. How could reasonable men and women allow a junior senator with less than 200 days service to come in and totally redefine what America is supposed to be and begin a process of reinventing this nation based on some liberal whims, many of which have been shown to have failed in the not too distant past?
Our debt has shot up an additional 5 trillion dollars in tha last 3 years, a meteoric 50% rise since Dec 15, 2008 George W's last days in office. And, because we are bent on the destruction of our great land via the entitlement at all cost, we are getting ready to gut our armed services another 600 billion so that we may hand that out to the poor as well. Heck, why not just back off this misquided "jobs bill" that will cost 460 billion?
Seriously, if Newt or Romney can't beat Obama it's over. And the irony is that "We the People" will have voted to give up America to the dogs if Obama is re-elected. Newt's got a little "carry on" baggage like I have mentiioned but, Obama's got a total train load of the stuff. I didn't vote for Obama the last time after I heard him say on the campaign trail that we Americans use 67% of the world's power and that cannot go on. Then he said under his plan the cost of electricity would neccessarily skyrocket. Once he got in office he proceeded to shut down electric generating plants and people on here tried to put a happy face on it. :please: EVERYBODY in my family that can legally vote, will be in a the booth on election day 2012, if we can get Newt in there it would be great. Romney is just a RINO but, it would still be like jumping to light speed! The boners Obama has pulled has given any candidate enough material to run a good campaign based on the record, more than enough ammo!
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11-23-2011, 11:25 AM
nky Wrote:Newt has some baggage. He'll get knock down and ripped on just as Perry, Cain, Bachmann and the rest of the front runners have been. Funny how Romney just flies below the radar always that second guy never the sticking the neck out yet guy
Agreed. Romney seems to be wearing Teflon...
11-23-2011, 08:33 PM
Stardust Wrote:Agreed. Romney seems to be wearing Teflon...The media is Romney's teflon. The media and establishments of both parties want Romney drilled in our brains. They are trying, and succeeding in many cases, to make voters think he is the only one that can compete with BO. At best, Romney is a centrist and will make minor adjustments in Washington. Newt will rock the boat like it needs to be rocked...The media coupled with party establishments don't want the boat rocked...I do though.
11-25-2011, 02:25 AM
SKINNYPIG Wrote:The media is Romney's teflon. The media and establishments of both parties want Romney drilled in our brains. They are trying, and succeeding in many cases, to make voters think he is the only one that can compete with BO. At best, Romney is a centrist and will make minor adjustments in Washington. Newt will rock the boat like it needs to be rocked...The media coupled with party establishments don't want the boat rocked...I do though.
I want the darn thing capsized!
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11-26-2011, 05:10 AM
The media is the new 'race card'. It is always the medias fault no matter what.
11-26-2011, 10:16 AM
OrangenowBlue Wrote:The media is the new 'race card'. It is always the medias fault no matter what.According to the right, you are correct. Everything is the "liberal media's" fault.
11-26-2011, 03:51 PM
Most democrats and and all liberals had their opinions given to them by the main stream media. It's hilarious when one really stops to think about it. Hundreds of media workers mostly fresh out of college get jobs in the news industry and voila`, they become infallible instruments of information. At one time the adults of our land could be relied on to remain grounded in the values that have always defined America so, college grads, seeing their example, had a chance to mature into more of a traditional view regarding the principles on which our country was founded.
Now a days, the overreach of the liberal college prof has extended from the classroom, into the newsroom and subsequently into the livingroom. Thus, the torrent of liberal ideology continues to indoctrinate unsuspecting folks by aligning these same liberal tenets with the democratic party and their candidates. The result is that the two are now synonomous, or better said, one in the same.
When I went to college I saw all this happening and just was not prepared to allow the liberal ideology to supplant the conservative values I had grown up with. Not to say I wasn't greatly influenced by the liberal ideology I learned in college, at some point I recognized the futility and highly impractical nature of that ideology. For instance, I have mentioned on here before how my college Anthropology prof taught that mankind, who at one time on the evoluionary scale found himself in five different stages of evolutionary developement across the face of the planet. Then through the mysterious, and neccessary force know as evolution, all five made a simultaneous 'jump' to Cro-Magnon Man. The ones that were retarded in their evolutionary developement thereby skipped the Neandertal and some other stages, to magically arrive on time, so to speak. Man then developed language and other skills that define us now. I can't by that one!
It is really no wonder folks have turned away from the believable, to now accept the unbelievable as the new truth. A lot of the so called news, is presented in such a way so as to indoctrinate people to form attitudes and bias against republicans and/or the conservative mindset. The real word for this technique is brainwashing. And, the medium is propaganda. All delivered by your nightly news via your TV.
Now a days, the overreach of the liberal college prof has extended from the classroom, into the newsroom and subsequently into the livingroom. Thus, the torrent of liberal ideology continues to indoctrinate unsuspecting folks by aligning these same liberal tenets with the democratic party and their candidates. The result is that the two are now synonomous, or better said, one in the same.
When I went to college I saw all this happening and just was not prepared to allow the liberal ideology to supplant the conservative values I had grown up with. Not to say I wasn't greatly influenced by the liberal ideology I learned in college, at some point I recognized the futility and highly impractical nature of that ideology. For instance, I have mentioned on here before how my college Anthropology prof taught that mankind, who at one time on the evoluionary scale found himself in five different stages of evolutionary developement across the face of the planet. Then through the mysterious, and neccessary force know as evolution, all five made a simultaneous 'jump' to Cro-Magnon Man. The ones that were retarded in their evolutionary developement thereby skipped the Neandertal and some other stages, to magically arrive on time, so to speak. Man then developed language and other skills that define us now. I can't by that one!
It is really no wonder folks have turned away from the believable, to now accept the unbelievable as the new truth. A lot of the so called news, is presented in such a way so as to indoctrinate people to form attitudes and bias against republicans and/or the conservative mindset. The real word for this technique is brainwashing. And, the medium is propaganda. All delivered by your nightly news via your TV.
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11-26-2011, 06:28 PM
:hilarious:
11-28-2011, 12:49 PM
TheRealVille Wrote::hilarious:
Your honor, I rest my case.
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11-28-2011, 12:57 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:Your honor, I rest my case.The laughing was that you think most news media brainwash viewers to the "wrong" liberal ideals, all except Fox, which brainwash them to the "right" views of conservatism. Any media that doesn't bring you to conservatism(your view), is wrong, in your opinion.
11-28-2011, 01:49 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:The laughing was that you think most news media brainwash viewers to the "wrong" liberal ideals, all except Fox, which brainwash them to the "right" views of conservatism. Any media that doesn't bring you to conservatism(your view), is wrong, in your opinion.
TheRealVille does have a point, lol. They all suck and try to sway ideals, ESPECIALLY MSNBC and Fox News.
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11-28-2011, 02:39 PM
Here's the flaw in saying they all try to sway details,while I certainly agree with V33 about his point for interpeting the state of affairs in present day. MSNBC and FOX weren't around back then. It was only CBS NBC and ABC. There was only one view coming out of these networks and it was liberal, there was no other view offered. Later, CNN stormed the market and for a while they gave a more centrist presentation of the news but after their ratings soared they went almost exclusively liberal too.
Then comes MSNBC, again, liberal. FOX NEWS, now the new kid on the block, says they want to do it fair and balanced but the biases of the hosts are obvious. I watch for media bias because it has always irritated me so much. The questions and answers given in all the interviews are calculated so as to shape public opinion. Given all of that, there are at least a few interviews and opinions given on FOX that are factual and not more campaign rhetoric. O'Reilly for one and few others from time to time. I completely disagree with the notion that everybody of FOX puts out the conservative message. I mean, among those employed by FOX are Chris Wallace and Heraldo Rivera for crying out loud.
My position on the matter is that one has to carefully consider what these guys are selling. Although, I do not believe you're going to ever hear any on the conservative side of an argument given any credibility on any other network other than FOX.
My observations about the liberal brainwashing coming from the networks over the course of time is accurate. The last time Walter Cronkite said "and that's the way it was" is the last time the news was presented with integrity from the main stream left leaning media. My saying that, does not mean that I think you can take anything you hear on FOX to the bank. I will say that one at least has a chance of hearing the truth on there, and only seldom will you get it real from the rest. Although, very occassionally a bunker buster will get dropped by somebody like Chris Matthews, when he raked Obama for not having any answers on the US economy. RV can and will line up with those yo-yo's come what may, and that's fine for him.
Then comes MSNBC, again, liberal. FOX NEWS, now the new kid on the block, says they want to do it fair and balanced but the biases of the hosts are obvious. I watch for media bias because it has always irritated me so much. The questions and answers given in all the interviews are calculated so as to shape public opinion. Given all of that, there are at least a few interviews and opinions given on FOX that are factual and not more campaign rhetoric. O'Reilly for one and few others from time to time. I completely disagree with the notion that everybody of FOX puts out the conservative message. I mean, among those employed by FOX are Chris Wallace and Heraldo Rivera for crying out loud.
My position on the matter is that one has to carefully consider what these guys are selling. Although, I do not believe you're going to ever hear any on the conservative side of an argument given any credibility on any other network other than FOX.
My observations about the liberal brainwashing coming from the networks over the course of time is accurate. The last time Walter Cronkite said "and that's the way it was" is the last time the news was presented with integrity from the main stream left leaning media. My saying that, does not mean that I think you can take anything you hear on FOX to the bank. I will say that one at least has a chance of hearing the truth on there, and only seldom will you get it real from the rest. Although, very occassionally a bunker buster will get dropped by somebody like Chris Matthews, when he raked Obama for not having any answers on the US economy. RV can and will line up with those yo-yo's come what may, and that's fine for him.
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11-29-2011, 04:34 PM
Newt is a draft dodger and a dead beat dad, I don't think we would get any better out of him than what we got.
11-29-2011, 08:25 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:Newt is a draft dodger and a dead beat dad, I don't think we would get any better out of him than what we got.In my opinion, Newt's got more positives than negatives. Hell, we all got things in our past we are not proud of. Mistakes are made by all. Newts historical knowledge of the mistakes, bad policy and good policy implimented by this country and it's politicians (along with his own) from day one of The United States of America makes him the best candidate for us at this time. Unlike most politicians, Newt will admit and learn from his mistakes. If we REALLY want change in Washington, I believe Newt will bring a positive change without risk. I have stopped looking for the perfect candidate...He/She does not exist. Just look at how many people thought BHO was "THE ONE".
11-30-2011, 12:21 AM
SKINNYPIG Wrote:In my opinion, Newt's got more positives than negatives. Hell, we all got things in our past we are not proud of. Mistakes are made by all. Newts historical knowledge of the mistakes, bad policy and good policy implimented by this country and it's politicians (along with his own) from day one of The United States of America makes him the best candidate for us at this time. Unlike most politicians, Newt will admit and learn from his mistakes. If we REALLY want change in Washington, I believe Newt will bring a positive change without risk. I have stopped looking for the perfect candidate...He/She does not exist. Just look at how many people thought BHO was "THE ONE".
You gotta admit. He did nearly double the debt in only 3 years. And he has created the greatest social divide since the days when we sent our taxes to King George.
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11-30-2011, 08:07 AM
vundy33 Wrote:Draft dodger? Didn't know that..Yep. Did school deferments.
12-01-2011, 12:06 AM
^How does going to college make him a draft dodger? Did he ever get and ignore several induction notices ala William Jefferson Clinton? I know a lot of guys that went to college during the Viet Nam era, the government certainly did not consider them to be draft dodgers. As a matter of fact, college grads entered the armed services as commissioned officers. That's why the government encouraged young men to go to college by granting them a special deferred 2S status. One could not go on to graduate school to continue his deferred status however, but Billy Boy pulled it off somehow and went on to Oxford on a Rhodes scholarship.
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12-01-2011, 12:40 AM
While we're on the subject I believe one has to all the way back to FDR (1933) to get to a president that didn't serve in the US armed services. And he was appointed Asst Secretary of the Navy by Woodrow Wilson in 1913. So going all the way back to 1945 only two presidents did not serve Clinton and Obama.
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12-01-2011, 01:56 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:While we're on the subject I believe one has to all the way back to FDR (1933) to get to a president that didn't serve in the US armed services. And he was appointed Asst Secretary of the Navy by Woodrow Wilson in 1913. So going all the way back to 1945 only two presidents did not serve Clinton and Obama.While I don't consider serving/not serving an issue when it comes to being President, draft dodging is a big issue.
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