[Blacksmith]

Im sorry if this has been posted before but i found this on AT&T's home page..
http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/...ool-wp9112

[Mr. Onion Head]

There are routs, there are blowouts, and then there are epic one-sided losses that would make the likes of Woody Hayes blush. The 100-2 victory by Pikeville (Kent.) Independent Middle School against Kimper (Kent.) Elementary and Middle School at the Pike County Preseason Tournament falls squarely in the last category. Now, the school district's superintendent and school board are allegedly considering canceling the team's entire season because of a perceived lack of sportsmanship shown in the 98-point drubbing.



As first reported by ScoutsFocus' Joe Davis, Pikeville raced out to a 70-0 lead in the game by halftime, eventually cruising through a second half performance in which Pikeville coach Bryan Johnson allegedly told his team to "stop playing defense" in an attempt to let Kimper score. You can see highlights from the mismatch in the first 40 seconds of the video above.

To say that the game was always going to be a mismatch is an understatement. Kimper is a small school of only 180 total students, and features players as young as 11 on its squad. That's a start contrast to Pikeville, which might indeed boast one of the nation's most talented squads of eighth graders; the same team which routed Kimper rolled past Virgie (Kent.) Middle School 75-32 in the championship game of the tournament. The Pikeville squad consists of the best members of the school's sixth and seventh grade teams from the past two seasons, when Johnson served as the head coach of those squads. He also coached the most select players from those teams on the AAU circuit, giving the team a cohesiveness that stands in stark contrast to the Kimper squad.

As one might expect, the full statistics from such a one-sided romp are even more shocking then simply Pikeville's 70-point half. Perhaps the most astonishing is the following: Pikeville led 25-0 just 1:48 into the game, when the team dropped its full court press and Johnson removed all five of his team's starters. Do the math, and one quickly realizes that Pikeville essentially scored a bucket every eight seconds when its starters were in the game.

According to Davis, who was informed of the situation by Johnson himself, that first two minute span and the continued offensive performance by the Pikeville reserves has been enough to prod the Pikeviile Independent School Board into quietly considering canceling the entire Pikeville basketball season. Whether or not the school district would cancel one of its team's seasons because of a single blowout remains to be seen, but if ever there was a one-sided scoreline that could elicit such a response, the 100-2 rout might be it.

Still, while Johnson may have always been due the largest share of criticism for letting his team rack up a 98-point victory in a preseason tournament against an overmatched foe, the fact that the two teams were even playing in the same bracket deserves further inspection as well. Sure, the two teams play on the same Kentucky middle school circuit, but that hardly justifies setting the two up against one another when such a game isn't absolutely necessary.


Does that mean that the Kimper head coach, Chase Haley, deserves criticism himself? Perhaps, though it's hard to find much fault with a coach looking for somewhere for his young team to play games before the regular season heats up.

In fact, that might be the worst news for Kimper after the game: The team still has Pikeville on its regular season schedule in mid-December. Of course, that rematch would be contingent on the entire Pikeville season not being cancelled first, and that may be less of an eventuality than any of us might imagine at first blush.

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[Mr. Onion Head]

I don't think the players should be punished for this, they were only doing what they were told. But the coach should be let go for this. Like someone said in another thread this can be prevented and it proves nothing. There have been years where other powerful teams could have won this big or bigger against weaker teams but it is just not necessary.

But what did people expect from Johnson?

What I find comical is how Pikeville is boasted as one of the nation's best teams. Haha. Wow.

[OffTheHook]

There are routs, there are blowouts, and then there are epic one-sided losses that would make the likes of Woody Hayes blush. The 100-2 victory by Pikeville (Kent.) Independent Middle School against Kimper (Kent.) Elementary and Middle School at the Pike County Preseason Tournament falls squarely in the last category. Now, the school district's superintendent and school board are allegedly considering canceling the team's entire season because of a perceived lack of sportsmanship shown in the 98-point drubbing.



As first reported by ScoutsFocus' Joe Davis, Pikeville raced out to a 70-0 lead in the game by halftime, eventually cruising through a second half performance in which Pikeville coach Bryan Johnson allegedly told his team to "stop playing defense" in an attempt to let Kimper score. You can see highlights from the mismatch in the first 40 seconds of the video above.

To say that the game was always going to be a mismatch is an understatement. Kimper is a small school of only 180 total students, and features players as young as 11 on its squad. That's a start contrast to Pikeville, which might indeed boast one of the nation's most talented squads of eighth graders; the same team which routed Kimper rolled past Virgie (Kent.) Middle School 75-32 in the championship game of the tournament. The Pikeville squad consists of the best members of the school's sixth and seventh grade teams from the past two seasons, when Johnson served as the head coach of those squads. He also coached the most select players from those teams on the AAU circuit, giving the team a cohesiveness that stands in stark contrast to the Kimper squad.

As one might expect, the full statistics from such a one-sided romp are even more shocking then simply Pikeville's 70-point half. Perhaps the most astonishing is the following: Pikeville led 25-0 just 1:48 into the game, when the team dropped its full court press and Johnson removed all five of his team's starters. Do the math, and one quickly realizes that Pikeville essentially scored a bucket every eight seconds when its starters were in the game.

According to Davis, who was informed of the situation by Johnson himself, that first two minute span and the continued offensive performance by the Pikeville reserves has been enough to prod the Pikeviile Independent School Board into quietly considering canceling the entire Pikeville basketball season. Whether or not the school district would cancel one of its team's seasons because of a single blowout remains to be seen, but if ever there was a one-sided scoreline that could elicit such a response, the 100-2 rout might be it.

Still, while Johnson may have always been due the largest share of criticism for letting his team rack up a 98-point victory in a preseason tournament against an overmatched foe, the fact that the two teams were even playing in the same bracket deserves further inspection as well. Sure, the two teams play on the same Kentucky middle school circuit, but that hardly justifies setting the two up against one another when such a game isn't absolutely necessary.


Does that mean that the Kimper head coach, Chase Haley, deserves criticism himself? Perhaps, though it's hard to find much fault with a coach looking for somewhere for his young team to play games before the regular season heats up.

In fact, that might be the worst news for Kimper after the game: The team still has Pikeville on its regular season schedule in mid-December. Of course, that rematch would be contingent on the entire Pikeville season not being cancelled first, and that may be less of an eventuality than any of us might imagine at first blush.

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If that be the case...Paintsville must be loaded with some of the "NATION's" BEST also. Seeing that pikeville only beat them by 2 pts with 2.6 seconds left in the game!!!!! WOOOHOOOO....D-1 Scouts are going to be all over the place now...LOL.

GUMP!....Did you write this...LOL.

[new o]

Then Virgie,Betsly Layne and Johnson Central had NBA players last year if thats the case,haha. Virgie played Kimper last year and won by 2 because they only allowed 6th grade and below to play. Three 4th graders played over a half game. By the way Pikeville pressed Virgie the entire game also. Better remember that Virgie and Dorton will be combining soon and things will not be so easy.

[CADEREECE]

Feel the same Off The Hook,,,,

Pikeville does have a good team, dont get me wrong, but I watched them barely beat Hazard in ot(Hazard blew a six point lead with a minute to go, missing 3 straight front end of the bonus).

Also saw Knox County beat Pikeville bad in the championship of that same tournament.

Pikeville has one of the better middle school teams in the mountains, but i do not see them being a major threat at the state middle school tournament

[OffTheHook]

Feel the same Off The Hook,,,,

Pikeville does have a good team, dont get me wrong, but I watched them barely beat Hazard in ot(Hazard blew a six point lead with a minute to go, missing 3 straight front end of the bonus).

Also saw Knox County beat Pikeville bad in the championship of that same tournament.

Pikeville has one of the better middle school teams in the mountains, but i do not see them being a major threat at the state middle school tournament

Oh don't get me wrong. Pikeville does have a decent team, as well as Paintsville, Hazard and Knox. I just couldn't believe that they said "one of the Nation's most"...lol. And according to the article. Pikeville's Coach did what he should. He removed his starters VERY early and told his team to NOT play defense. Sounds to me that if the other team wants to play games. They need to play a B & C-Team schedule. I am sure that the other schools would be more than happy to schedule games with them.

[PHSForever]

I don't think the players should be punished for this, they were only doing what they were told. But the coach should be let go for this. Like someone said in another thread this can be prevented and it proves nothing. There have been years where other powerful teams could have won this big or bigger against weaker teams but it is just not necessary.

But what did people expect from Johnson?

What I find comical is how Pikeville is boasted as one of the nation's best teams. Haha. Wow.

No offense, did you even read it? He had them stop playing defense, scored 30 in the 2nd half, and had his starters out 2 minutes into the game. Think about that for a minute. What should he have done? Send one player out there and play 1 on 5? Playing NO defense the whole second half and all Kimper could do was score 2 points? Players should not be punished, I agree. Coach? I'm not sure if he should be, but if he is, perhaps a one or 2 game suspension. I really don't see what people wanted Pikeville to do, short of tell them they were not going to play the 2nd half. Really, most viable solution to this for future happenstance is to establish a running clock rule like football has, is about all I can think of right now.

And to the other posters, knock off the smart aleck remarks about the players, they are a good bunch of kids, know everyone of them. Just play very well together.

[OffTheHook]

No offense, did you even read it? He had them stop playing defense, scored 30 in the 2nd half, and had his starters out 2 minutes into the game. Think about that for a minute. What should he have done? Send one player out there and play 1 on 5? Playing NO defense the whole second half and all Kimper could do was score 2 points? Players should not be punished, I agree. Coach? I'm not sure if he should be, but if he is, perhaps a one or 2 game suspension. I really don't see what people wanted Pikeville to do, short of tell them they were not going to play the 2nd half. Really, most viable solution to this for future happenstance is to establish a running clock rule like football has, is about all I can think of right now.

And to the other posters, knock off the smart aleck remarks about the players, they are a good bunch of kids, know everyone of them. Just play very well together.

Excuse me???? Talk about needing to re-read something. Noone has said ANYTHING about ANY players. If anything we said that Pikeville had a pretty good team. BUT, NOT a "Nation's most talented". Just like ALL the rest of the schools East or West of I75. The remarks were about the article....pleeeze.

[PHSForever]

Excuse me???? Talk about needing to re-read something. Noone has said ANYTHING about ANY players. If anything we said that Pikeville had a pretty good team. BUT, NOT a "Nation's most talented". Just like ALL the rest of the schools East or West of I75. The remarks were about the article....pleeeze.

Ooops, I tried to edit it, meant to say knock it off and just talk about real solutions. Computer froze up on me, so I apologize for that. I agree the comment about having one of the nations top 8th grade teams is funny. I think the writer was just basing it off seeing the video and the scores 100-2 over Kimper and 76-32 over Virgie.

Again, sorry, just couldn't edit it.

[Panther Thunder]

I, for one, am pissed they used my video to support this article and then put a scoutsfocus watermark on it. I find it funny that the article was written to be negative and the overwhelming majority of comments are against the writer and his assertions. Like many of them have said, it is disrespectful to an opponent to not give your best while you are on the floor. While I don't think I would intentionally run up the score on teams, I also would not tell my son, or player, that comes off the bench maybe once this season and that is the only time to go out there and act like he doesn't know how to play basketball just because the other team is not very good. As long as you are not showboating and rubbing it in, just play the game as hard as you can until that final horn sounds and then shake hands and move on.

[Real Badman]

This kind of scoring has happened since I was a tiny-tot. I can remember myself and my grade school team beating Pikeville by about 75.

[bball_fan]

No offense, did you even read it? He had them stop playing defense, scored 30 in the 2nd half, and had his starters out 2 minutes into the game. Think about that for a minute. What should he have done? Send one player out there and play 1 on 5? Playing NO defense the whole second half and all Kimper could do was score 2 points? Players should not be punished, I agree. Coach? I'm not sure if he should be, but if he is, perhaps a one or 2 game suspension. I really don't see what people wanted Pikeville to do, short of tell them they were not going to play the 2nd half. Really, most viable solution to this for future happenstance is to establish a running clock rule like football has, is about all I can think of right now.

And to the other posters, knock off the smart aleck remarks about the players, they are a good bunch of kids, know everyone of them. Just play very well together.

The players are very talented, but this falls on the coach. When you have a team with the talent to put up 100 points, thats great! But this isn't the first team to come through this region the last few years that could have done it. To be honest, it's probably no where near the teams Betsy Layne, Dorton (two years ago), Feds Creek (two years ago), Johnson Central and Virgie had but none of them ran up the score to 100! When you get up and you pull your starters, you back out of your press and play a very soft man to man and tell the players not to help off. On offense, you hold the ball! Kill the clock! I promise I could and a lot of other coaches could take the same team in that situation and not turn it into the story it has become. Get your lead, and slow the game way down!

[fred taylor]

Brian the Coach was only doing what Pikeville has done for years.
Pikeville has aways beat teams as bad as they can when they can.
Brian was probably just doing what he saw Kevin Garris do a few years ago.
Kevin Garris had Mullins down 68 to 2 at halftime when he coached and played his starters in the 3rd quarter and beat them by 87 points he also beat Christ Central when they started a girl on they 8th grade boys team by 70 points. I will never beleive anything but Pikeville wanted to win 100 to 0
You no you are playing Kimper dress a few 6th graders let them win by 30 points and go to your next game. But Pikeville has never had any class so this is not a surprise to me.

[Spud6]

Did they play starters the entire time?

[HawksRule]

I, for one, am pissed they used my video to support this article and then put a scoutsfocus watermark on it. I find it funny that the article was written to be negative and the overwhelming majority of comments are against the writer and his assertions. Like many of them have said, it is disrespectful to an opponent to not give your best while you are on the floor. While I don't think I would intentionally run up the score on teams, I also would not tell my son, or player, that comes off the bench maybe once this season and that is the only time to go out there and act like he doesn't know how to play basketball just because the other team is not very good. As long as you are not showboating and rubbing it in, just play the game as hard as you can until that final horn sounds and then shake hands and move on.

I'd raise hell about that video if I were you.

[Spud6]

I, for one, am pissed they used my video to support this article and then put a scoutsfocus watermark on it. I find it funny that the article was written to be negative and the overwhelming majority of comments are against the writer and his assertions. Like many of them have said, it is disrespectful to an opponent to not give your best while you are on the floor. While I don't think I would intentionally run up the score on teams, I also would not tell my son, or player, that comes off the bench maybe once this season and that is the only time to go out there and act like he doesn't know how to play basketball just because the other team is not very good. As long as you are not showboating and rubbing it in, just play the game as hard as you can until that final horn sounds and then shake hands and move on.

That's pretty dirty!

[Cardinalfootballguy]

It was a preseason scrimmage correct?

[RoShamBo]

That's messed up, and I hate that for the Kimper kids, but you can't cancel their season. You can't punish kids for playing the game well, even maybe they didn't do it the 'right way'. If anyone should be punished it is the coach not the kids.

Was there any sort of conflict at the game or complaint by the Kimper coach or parents? If not I see no reason to punish anyone, maybe a slap on the wrist for the coach but that's it.

[PHSForever]

Did they play starters the entire time?

Read the article. It explains they pulled the starters 1 minute and 48 seconds into the game with a 25-0 lead.

[LeeCoUKFan]

I just found out about this and I can't believe that they're actually going to even think about canceling Pikeville's season!!! The starters barely played, so you can't blame Pikeville's coach. I think that it would be more unsportsmanlike to quit playing!! It will be ridiculous, IMO, if the school district decides to canel their season!!:redboxer:

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

I like the part about Tiny Kimper with only 180 kids. Pikeville is class-A so they couldn't have many more kids than that, fact of the matter is that The coach pulled out the starters two minutes in, and told his kids not to play d. What in the hell else could he have done?

[jetpilot]

This kind of scoring has happened since I was a tiny-tot. I can remember myself and my grade school team beating Pikeville by about 75.

Don't believe you. Give me details and I will verify it myself.
Year, players, score. Don't reply any other arguments/info other than the facts I asked for.

[HAIL PIKEVILLE!]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/bobcook/2011...0-2-score/

I guess someone must have reminded Mr. Green that alot of those B-ball parents know where he lives...LOL!!!

What I find funny is that this article names Pikeville as "The biggest school in the county"?!?!?!? Research much? LOL!!!

[jetpilot]

Link doesn't work dude^^^

[HAIL PIKEVILLE!]

Alot of you folks are letting your deep seeded hatred of Pikeville over ride your common sense and making yourselves out to be hypocrites in the process. Because I GUARANTEE if Kimper beat Pikeville 100-2 some of you who are blasting Pikeville would be the very ones who would want to have a parade in Kimpers honor. So spare me with your "moral high ground" BS. Coach Johnson did everything he could short of pulling his kids off the floor to try and stop what happened from happening and, as life goes, it happened anyway. If I were Jerry Green I wouldve fired Coach Johnson....for letting Kimper score...LOL! Just kidding.

[HAIL PIKEVILLE!]

Link doesn't work dude^^^

Sorry Im not good at posting links. Just go to Forbes website and type Pikeville in the search box...

[jetpilot]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/bobcook/2011...0-2-score/

[HAIL PIKEVILLE!]

For those of you who cant get the link. Jerry Green is quoted as saying "The season will not be canceled and Brian Johnson will be the coach". Also Brian will not be playing any 8th graders in next months rematch against Kimper according to the story. At this rate that game will be at the Expo Center and on ESPN with Dick Vitale and Jay Bilas announcing it....

[Real Badman]

Don't believe you. Give me details and I will verify it myself.
Year, players, score. Don't reply any other arguments/info other than the facts I asked for.

The 90's were so long ago. Must I really?